In this episode of the Lead. Win. podcast, we explore how strong relationships can either drive teamwork or unintentionally create silos within an organization. Learn how to build trust, listen with intent, and lead with respect—without letting personal bonds undermine team unity. We break down the five elements of effective relationships—trust, listen, respect, influence, and care—and explain how ego and assumptions can be major barriers to collaboration. Packed with leadership insights, tactical stories, and real-world examples, this episode helps leaders at every level strengthen relationships, build leadership capital, and break down internal silos.

⏱️ Episode Breakdown: When Relationships Create Silos

• 0:00 – Intro: Why Relationships Matter
• Why relationship-building is foundational to leadership and teamwork.

• 1:30 – The Four Laws of Combat: Cover and Move
• How strong relationships enable teamwork, and what happens when they’re missing.

• 4:30 – What Is a Relationship?
• A practical definition: Trust, Listen, Respect, Influence, and Care.

• 7:30 – Building Relationships Without Friendship
• You don’t have to like someone to have a productive relationship with them.

• 9:00 – The Ego Barrier
• How ego kills influence, creates conflict, and prevents effective communication.

• 12:30 – Influence Is Earned, Not Demanded
• Real-world leadership story: how one leader gained buy-in by listening first.

• 13:30 – The Flat Earth Story
• Dave Burke’s perfect example of subordinating ego to preserve a relationship.

• 15:00 – Every Interaction Is a Deposit or Withdrawal
• The concept of leadership capital and how to build it daily.

• 20:00 – When Relationships Become Silos
• The dangers of cliques and tight inner circles creating division in teams.

• 22:30 – Real Client Example: Sales vs IT Friction
• How one conversation could’ve saved weeks of conflict and frustration.

• 25:00 – Assuming Sinister Intent
• How assumptions erode trust—and how to check in with curiosity instead.

• 26:30 – Don’t Neglect Relationships at Home
• A reminder that the most important relationships often get overlooked.

• 27:00 – Immediate Action Drill
• Identify one relationship that needs work and commit to a 30-day plan.

• 28:00 – Closing & Resources
• How to connect with Echelon Front and dive deeper into leadership development.

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There’s one battlefield-tested mindset that turns chaos into clarity. In this episode, Leif Babin and Jamie Cochran reveal the simple drill that kept SEALs alive—and can rescue your toughest business, family, and life moments. Hear a near-fatal household accident, a braces blow-up, and real-world tactics that let you pull order from disorder and lead your team to victory. Stick around for the Immediate Action Drill you’ll want ready before your next crisis.

Takeaways:

00:00 Chaos vs. Calm — why most leaders stumble

04:30 The Invisible First Step behind “Prioritize & Execute”

10:00 Battlefield Drill: “Relax, look around, make a call”

17:45 Household Crisis Story — turning panic into action

26:30 Everyday Practice: braces, parenting, and reply-all emails

36:00 Crafting Your 3-Step Action Plan (red flags & tactics)

49:30 Immediate Action Drill + ways to level up with EO Academy

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Are you allergic to negative feedback?

Discover why feedback is the ultimate leadership gift—and how to turn every “ouch” moment into unstoppable growth. Former Navy SEAL Leif Babin and leadership instructor Jamie Cochran unpack the Extreme Ownership approach to receiving criticism without letting ego hijack progress. Walk away with clear, actionable steps to detach emotionally, run brutally honest self-assessments, and transform even the harshest comments into fuel for improvement.

⏱️ Episode Highlights

• 00:58 Why we instinctively resist critique
• 02:30 The ego-check questions that change everything
• 05:22 Leveraging 360° feedback surveys to reveal blind spots
• 11:50 How humility accelerates team performance
• 18:05 A real-world refund story that proves Extreme Ownership in action
• 24:40 The indirect approach to giving feedback without triggering defenses
• 28:10 Two immediate-action drills you can try this week

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In this episode of Lead & Win, Echelon Front instructors Leif Babin and Jamie Cochran unpack the Tone - Tact - Timing - Delivery framework that keeps SEAL teams (and high-performing businesses) aligned under pressure. Discover why intent doesn’t matter—only results do, how a simple “read-back” closes communication loops, and the tactical fixes you can apply at work, at home, and on the battlefield of everyday life.

Leif Babin and Jamie Cochran reveal why great leaders turn “hard conversations” into non-events by practicing Extreme Ownership. Learn how relationship-building, constant debriefs, honest feedback, and total accountability keep teams aligned, boost performance, and eliminate excuses—at work, at home, and everywhere you lead.

Leif Babin and Jamie Cochran launch the Lead.Win. podcast by breaking down the core Echelon Front principle of Extreme Ownership—taking full responsibility for everything that impacts your mission. Drawing on Navy SEAL combat lessons and a real-world travel-booking mishap, they show how owning mistakes builds trust, tames ego, and gives leaders true control. The episode ends with a simple 5-step Immediate Action Drill you can use today to replace blame with solutions in business, family, and life

In a world where leadership is tested every day, Lead. Win. is your front-line briefing. Hosted by Leif Babin—combat-proven Navy SEAL and co-author of Extreme Ownership—and Jamie Cochran, a powerhouse leadership instructor, this podcast delivers the gritty, real-world lessons that turn good leaders into great ones.

Each episode unpacks the principles of Extreme Ownership through high-stakes stories, practical case studies, and hard-hitting conversations with leaders across industries. Whether you're running a company, a classroom, or your own household—Lead. Win. gives you the mindset and tools to own it all… and win.

Episodes drop June 20th.