Episodes

  • 29 - Bad Product. Now What?
    Dec 9 2025

    You took the job. Day one hits. And you realize: the product is bad. Maybe it's broken, maybe it's losing to competitors, or maybe there's just no market for it. Now what?

    Nate and John break down the three types of bad products you'll encounter, how to diagnose which one you're dealing with, and what to actually do about it. From fixing broken functionality to pivoting when there's no market fit, this episode covers the scenarios most PMs face but few want to admit.

    Plus: why job hopping might be your best education, the Batman effect on public transportation, and why $100K doesn't mean what it used to.

    New website: ProductIsChange.com

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    25 mins
  • 28 - How to Sell an Idea Internally (When Nobody Asked)
    Dec 2 2025

    You've got a great idea. Now comes the hard part: getting the right folks to care. Nate and John break down what it actually takes to sell an idea internally—from understanding whether you're solving a real problem to navigating the organizational politics that can doom even the best proposals.

    They explore why most internal pitches fail, how to build credibility before you need it, and the difference between having an idea and having a strategy.

    Plus: lessons learned about B2B pricing thresholds and the myth of learning styles.

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    23 mins
  • 27 - Your First 30 Days with a New Manager
    Nov 25 2025

    Your manager just left, a reorg shuffled the deck, or a new leader landed on your team. Now what? Nate and John break down the first 30 days with a new manager—what actually matters, what you should avoid, and how to set yourself up for success when the reporting lines shift. From the "managing up with data" playbook to why your first impression matters more than you think, this episode covers the unspoken rules of navigating leadership transitions. Your job is real, your role is negotiable.

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    21 mins
  • 26 - A PM Tech Stack Reality Check
    Nov 18 2025

    What tools are PMs actually using to get work done? John walks through his everyday tech stack: OmniFocus for personal tasks, Jira for team coordination, Confluence for documentation. But it's not about the tools themselves. It's about knowing when to use them and when they're getting in your way.

    We dig into the AI creep happening across these platforms, the temptation to automate everything with Claude, and why John's implementing a "swear jar" for AI-generated content that nobody bothers to read. Plus: lessons learned from assuming "this will be quick" in meetings (spoiler: it never is) and economic warning signs hiding in plain sight.

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    18 mins
  • 25 - How (and Why) Alex Curley Built Adopt a Station
    Nov 11 2025

    When Congress pulled federal funding from public media in July 2025, it eliminated 15-30% of station budgets overnight. Alex Curley, founder of Semipublic, joins to break down what happened, what's next, and how his Adopt a Station platform is pairing supporters with stations in crisis.

    Plus: Why GM killing CarPlay proves we never learn from our mistakes, and a lesson about vanishing careers that hits a little too close to home for John.

    Guest: Alex Curley (Semipublic, Adopt a Station)

    Learn more about Alex and his work here:

    semipublic.co/

    adoptastation.org/

    linkedin.com/in/alexscurley/

    @adoptastation on instagram and bluesky


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    28 mins
  • 24 - A Heat Pump, a Fridge, and a Minivan Walk into a Red Lobster...
    Nov 4 2025

    From heat pump replacements to smart thermostats with speakers, Nate and John kick off this episode deep in the weeds of homeownership. But don't worry—they quickly pivot to more relevant matters: why nobody understands what marketing actually does, the surprising complexity of MarTech stacks, and whether meeting agendas are just corporate theater.

    Along the way, they tackle Red Lobster's youngest CEO, the mystery of an unused gift card, and the revelation that parenting after 6pm is basically a DDoS attack. Plus: an accidental ADHD diagnosis that went unchecked for way too long.

    Topics: Product management, marketing misconceptions, meeting culture, Red Lobster turnaround, parenting chaos, ADHD and auditory processing

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    17 mins
  • 23 - Building a Community with Jeni Asaba
    Oct 28 2025

    What started as a listserv evolved into a 150K+ member community that keeps customers from leaving. Jeni Asaba, Head of Community at Jamf, breaks down how community became their product moat—and why you should stop overthinking and just start.

    We dig into platform migrations, measuring what actually matters, and why connecting Apple enthusiasts isn't about selling software. Whether you're building B2B products or trying to figure out community-led growth, this one's packed with practical insights.

    Lessons learned: The power of dial-up nostalgia, the mystery of "six-seven," and why spy school erasers were the original DMs.

    You can find Jeni here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeni-asaba-1006/

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    25 mins
  • 22 - Jack of Few Trades
    Oct 21 2025

    Can you really be great at product management or marketing without knowing the industry? John thought so—until experience proved him wrong. In this week's episode, we dive into the age-old debate: domain expertise vs. raw skill mastery.

    John shares his evolution from "just be good at the discipline" to realizing that specialized knowledge actually matters more than he wanted to admit. Meanwhile, Nate asks whether the real question is whether a given organization provides people the runway to succeed without industry expertise. Plus: Can AI tools bridge the gap and make industry-hopping easier, or does it make specialization even more critical?

    Also featuring: the economics of the AI bubble and that time John played in an Irish band while pretending to be mute.

    Lessons Learned: The meaning (or meaninglessness) of "6-7" and the acoustic properties of desert sand.

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    18 mins