Brad Krauskopf, Founder and CEO of Hub Australia, has been shaping the flexible workspace industry since the early days of coworking. In this episode, Gio sits down with Brad in Melbourne to talk about Hub’s journey, from scrappy beginnings with beanbags to high-touch hospitality and multi-layered partnerships with landlords.

Brad shares his perspective on how Hub has evolved, what hybrid work looks like in Australia, and why the future of flex depends on experiences, not just square footage.

In this episode, we cover:

• The evolution of Hub Australia from scrappy community hubs to high-touch, hospitality-driven workspaces.

• How hybrid work is reshaping demand in Australia and what that means for operators and landlords.

• Why partnerships between operators and landlords are essential for creating whole-building experiences.

• The role of hospitality as a true differentiator in flexible workspace.

• The future of flex in Australia: evolving models, member expectations, and the importance of meaningful connections.

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WOTSO is Australia’s largest independent flexible workspace operator — and their story is one every operator should hear. From their beginnings as a single site to building a nationwide network, WOTSO has navigated growth, shifting demand, and the evolving landlord-operator relationship while staying true to their brand and community.

In this episode, we sit down with the WOTSO team to unpack how they’ve built a model that works at scale and what operators everywhere can learn from their journey.

What we cover:

• WOTSO’s origin story and how they grew into a national flex operator.

• The keys to scaling without losing community and brand identity.

• How they’ve approached landlord partnerships and real estate strategy.

• Lessons learned from adapting their model across diverse markets.

• Insights into where Australia’s flex market is heading next

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Paula on LinkedIn

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This week’s episode is a little different. Gio takes the mic solo, delivering the keynote at the Flexible Workspace Australia Conference.

In his talk, Gio brings his signature mix of candor and big-picture perspective to what’s happening in the flex industry, in Australia, in the U.S., and globally.

What Gio covers:

• Why operators everywhere are facing similar challenges around demand, landlords, and scaling.

• The critical role community plays, and why it remains flex’s biggest differentiator.

• How landlord partnerships are evolving and what both sides need to make them work.

• What U.S. operators can learn from the Australian market, and vice versa.

• Why the future of flex is local and global at the same time.

If you couldn’t be in the room, this episode brings the keynote to you.

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This week, Gio and I sit down with Mike Kloppenburg, VP at Avison Young and longtime coworking insider, to pull back the curtain on what’s really happening in the brokerage world, and what it means for flex operators. From the “flight to quality” and secondary market opportunities, to the messy reality of management agreements and the IWG land grab, Mike brings candid insights you won’t get anywhere else.

What we cover:

• Why the big brokerages are cautiously optimistic, and where the optimism comes from.

• How the “flight to quality” is reshaping both traditional office leasing and flex space demand.

• Secondary and tertiary markets: where the supply-demand balance tips in favor of operators.

• The challenges of management agreements, how IWG’s aggressive expansion is affecting the industry, and why deal structure still makes or breaks success.

• Scaling beyond your home market: why granular, on-the-ground market knowledge is non-negotiable.

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Michael on LinkedIn

Avison Young website

2025 Americas Office Occupier Sentiment Survey

2025 Mid-Year Outlook

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If the term “cowarehousing” hasn’t hit your radar yet, this episode will change that.

Shannon and Emiliano Lerda didn’t set out to build a flex space company — they just wanted to stop tripping over shipping boxes in their living room. What they ended up creating is Elevator Co-Warehousing, a fast-growing brand built specifically for product-based businesses that need more than a desk… but less than a forklift.

In this episode, Gio and guest cohost Wesley Edmonds dive into how the Lerdas turned a personal pain point into a scalable model that blends real estate, hospitality, and serious operational know-how.

Here’s what we cover:

• How their own experience running an e-commerce brand led to the first Elevator space.

• Why their spaces feel more like coworking than traditional warehouse environments.

• The intentional decision to open in overlooked markets — and why it’s paying off.

• How community, design, and practical logistics create a retention flywheel.

• The financing and buildout lessons they’ve learned while scaling a new category.

If you’re exploring new flex models or thinking about how to serve a different kind of member — this conversation is full of smart, grounded inspiration.

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Shannon on LinkedIn

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A couch, a few desks, and a Wi-Fi password won’t cut it anymore.

In this episode, we sit down with Wesley Edmonds, Director of Workplace at Office Furniture Solutions, and Kurt Patrick, Senior Executive at Essensys, to talk about what it really takes to create a functional, flexible space, from physical design to digital infrastructure.

They’ve both worked behind the scenes on hundreds of flex space projects. Their perspective? Too many operators underestimate the complexity of getting a space ready, and keeping it competitive.

Here’s what we cover:

• Why tech infrastructure should be part of the earliest planning conversations — not a bolt-on.

• Common mistakes in space design that hurt member experience and operational efficiency.

• How Wesley helps landlords and operators align vision with real-world furniture, flow, and budget.

• What the biggest operators get right when it comes to tech, access control, and back-of-house ops.

• Why speed to market matters — and how the right team can help you launch faster and smarter.

If you're opening a space, refreshing your layout, or scaling a flex brand, this conversation will save you time, money, and headaches.

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We're bringing this one back because it's one of our most inspiring episodes. If you haven’t met Chiko Abengowe, you’re in for a masterclass in scaling coworking with hustle, heart, and zero VC funding.

Chiko is the founder and CEO of Perfect Office Solutions, a 20+ location flex brand that’s built for affordability, speed, and entrepreneurs who just need space to get to work.

We talk about:

• How Chiko turned $1,000 and a background in staffing into a coworking company serving hundreds of small businesses.

• The secret behind his “Walmart of coworking” model and why members furnish their own spaces.

• How he gamifies sales and motivates his team with monthly bonuses and international trips.

• The art of negotiating leases where landlords cover 100% of the buildout.

• Why staying lean, scrappy, and mission-driven still wins in a competitive flex market.

If you think you need fancy furniture and deep pockets to grow, this episode will challenge everything.

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In this host-only episode, Jamie and Gio catch up on what’s happening across the flex space landscape, and let’s just say, it’s anything but quiet.

From emerging product types to the mystery of Peerspace algorithms, this one dives into the macro (industry mergers, the rise of co-warehousing) and the micro (why your meeting room pricing strategy might be off).

If you’re feeling the pull to try something new or just want a pulse check on what’s working, this is the episode for you.

What we cover:

• Why showing up to coworking events and conferences is more valuable than ever.

• Meeting room trends: pricing, product design, and creative inventory strategies.

• The (surprising) growth of co-warehousing and adjacent flex models.

• Big moves in the flex industry: acquisitions, brand launches, and new entrants.

• Why some operators are quietly selling out and what others can learn from that momentum.

This one’s got ideas, inspiration, and a few names you’ll definitely want to keep an eye on.

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