What does it take to become the greatest defender in NBA history — and stay elite at 33?
In this episode of Deep Tissue Talks, 4x NBA Defensive Player of the Year Rudy Gobert gets on the massage table to talk about the recovery systems, mindset work, and lifestyle choices that keep him at the top of the game — and his unprecedented chase for a record-breaking 5th DPOY trophy.
Rudy goes deeper than any interview you've seen. He breaks down the private performance ecosystem he's built over 13 years in the NBA: hyperbaric chamber sessions, red light therapy, grounding, and why he made a decision that was particularly hard as a Frenchman. He also unpacks the somatic work that anchors his presence on defense — and explains why most of what he does never shows up in the highlight reel.
We also go into the childhood in Saint-Quentin, France that forged his resilience, what Little Rudy needed to hear that nobody said, and how becoming a father completely restructured his sense of identity and purpose.
This is a conversation about the invisible work behind elite performance — the body, the mind, and the spirit of someone chasing history.
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Topics covered:
• The 2026 DPOY race: Rudy vs. Wembanyama
• Why winning four, maybe five, is a bigger miracle
• Hyperbaric chamber: his protocol, what it feels like, why he swears by it
• The decision he made that's hard for any Frenchman
• Red light therapy and grounding in Minnesota winters
• Building a private performance team outside the franchise
• Defense as identity: growing up in the projects in France
• The somatic framework behind elite longevity
• What Little Rudy in Saint-Quentin needed to hear
• How fatherhood restructured everything
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Deep Tissue Talks is hosted by Doris Martel, performance therapist and somatic specialist. Every episode is recorded on the massage table — where athletes say what they never say anywhere else.
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