Dr. David Thomson returns to unpack the twelve spies, the science-faith relationship, and what Balaam’s donkey teaches us about the people who see what we can’t.

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TIMECODE:
00:00 - Part 2 - Dr. Dave Thomson
01:34 Giants and grasshoppers: “We’re toast!”
02:34 Caleb and Joshua vs the ten–focus on God
05:10 Believing Jesus Christ
07:18 Trust what Jesus Christ said He can do
11:51 “We’re not earning heaven, we’re learning heaven.”
13:42 Elder Renlund reminds to choose to keep the commandments
16:46 2 Nephi 25:23 reimagined
20:45 Science and faith–a perceived conflict
23:44 President Nelson: All truth is compatible
29:59 Alma 32 and the Scientific Method
33:43 Balaam and his donkey
29:43 Who are the donkeys in your life?
41:30 Dr. Thomson’s donkeys
49:39 President Hinckley taught that faith is like a muscle
51:48 Muscle growth and faith
59:17 Closing testimonies
1:47:18 End of Part 2 - Dr. Dave Thomson


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Is the secret to a longer, healthier life hiding in the Book of Numbers? Dr. David Thomson brings his expertise in physiology and aging to uncover why complaining might be killing you, spiritually and physically, and why keeping your eyes on Jesus Christ changes everything.

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TIMECODE:
00:00 - Part 1 - Dr. David Thomson
00:38 Giants vs. Grasshoppers
02:27 Teaser
03:43 The Bronze Serpent: Beholding vs Glancing
08:57 Complaining to one another vs Talking to the Lord
15:18 The Rabble:Who do we listen to?
24:55 Why study aging?
26:54 Aaron’s Death
30:44 President Nelson: Length vs. Quality of Life
31:46 Positive mindset and cognitive health
35:42 Elder Boyd K. Packer: Staying engaged in the gospel
43:07 The 4 Big Levers for healthy aging
51:20 Delegating the Spirit: Moses and the Seventy
53:20 Being set apart
59:52 Criticizing vs sustaining
1:03:14 Gaining a testimony of living apostles
1:05:17 Miriam’s leprosy–consequences and mercy
1:09:46 Waiting for Miriam
1:10:58 End of Part 1 - Dr. David Thomson

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Dr. Ross Baron joins Follow Him to discuss the Old Testament tabernacle and sacrifice, showing how it creates sacred space separate from everyday life. He explains its symbolism—including layout, furnishings, and priestly clothing—as a pattern for returning to God’s presence. He connects these practices to modern temple worship, highlighting sacrifices as symbols of Jesus Christ and His Atonement.

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Dr. Avram Shannon continues to unlock the divine logic behind Israel's sacrificial system and the Day of Atonement, dismantling the myth of the angry Old Testament God and revealing why Leviticus was the book Jesus read and why it is the surprising heartbeat of covenant life today.

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TIMECODE:
00:00 - Part 2 - Dr. Avram Shannon
00:07 The sacrificial system
03:20 Why does sacrifice create holiness?
06:19 What was the Tabernacle made of?
17:17 Ritual purity laws: Matter out of place
21:22 The Day of Atonement and Five Offerings
28:58 Nadab and Abihu–No one is shielded from consequences
38:50 Leprosy, skin disease, and purity laws
42:17 The Holiness Code: Instructions for becoming like God
46:16 Love thy neighbor: The Law Jesus read
49:44 The myth of the angry Old Testament God
57:29 Covenants and relationships, not transactions
57:45 Dr. Shannon’s forthcoming book of the Law of Moses in The Book of Mormon
1:04:45 End of Part 2 - Dr. Avram Shannon

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What does a tent in the wilderness have to do with your Sunday worship? Dr. Avram Shannon unpacks the Tabernacle’s sacred architecture, priestly ritual, and sacrificial symbolism tracing the ancient roots of atonement through Exodus and Leviticus, revealing how these covenant practices still pulse at the heart of the Saints today.

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TIMECODE:
00:00 - Part 1 - Dr. Avram Shannon
03:01 Why Leviticus matters: Order, holiness and finding God in structure
08:21 Come, Follow Me Manual
09:45 Building the Tabernacle as God’s dwelling place among His people
14:18 What was the Tabernacle made of?
19:56 Sister Sharon Eubank: Temples as the greatest offerings from the wilderness
24:48 Golden earrings, Golden Calf: Giving to idols
35:00 Inside the Tabernacle
39:57 The Ark of the Covenant and the Mercy Seat
45:16 Temple recommends and guardians
49:00 The clothing of the High Priest
57:21 Why does God need a place?
1:06:21 Atonement as Priestly, and a sacrificial word–kafar

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Dr. Aaron Schade returns to Exodus 19-34 with fresh eyes, reframing the Ten Commandments, the golden calf, and the lesser law not as a burden or punishment, but as a patient father, meeting covenant people where they are and walking them home.

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TIMECODE

• 00:00 - Part 2 - Dr. Aaron Schade
• 01:52 A paradigm shift: This is a day of creation
• 02:56 Expanding “Thou Shalt Not Steal”
• 04:40 Eye for an Eye was fair and not vengeful
• 05:10 Don’t Crush My Chips
• 07:37 Bearing false witness and taking things out of context
• 09:05 Thou shalt not kill: Reputation, confidence, hope
• 11:34 How far are we willing to go with God?
• 14:09 Moses’s son Gershom–a foreigner
• 15:57 Going up the mountain
• 17:55 Writing the covenants, the 12 pillars, peace offerings
• 18:54 Cutting a covenant involves blood
• 20:51 They saw God, and ate and drank with Him
• 22:24 D&C 27: God wants to dine with us
• 25:03 Moses to God: Let me know you are still there
• 26:52 The irony of building a calf out of expensive items
• 28:38 Building faith and a tabernacle
• 32:03 Shakat–corrupted but not corrupt
• 37:29 What priesthood did God remove?
• 40:51 A story of gain, not loss
• 44:56 Wherever we are, God is willing to help
• 47:33 President Nelson: temple worship and knowing Jesus Christ
• 51:31 The golden calf reframed
• 56:18 A father’s response to a daughter’s mistake
• 59:57 We become God’s helping hands
• 1:00:43 Face-to-face: As a man speaketh to his friend
• 1:02:14 The Ten Commandments and the golden calf–complete flipped
• 1:04:45 End of Part 2 - Dr. Aaron Schade

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