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Working Together

Working Together

By: Brick & Wonder
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Welcome to the Brick & Wonder podcast, where we delve into the art and science of collaboration within the built environment industry. Hosted by Drew Lang, founder of Brick & Wonder, this podcast explores the stories and strategies behind successful collaborations that drive innovation and shape the built world around us. Join us as we sit down with interdisciplinary professionals at the forefront of their fields, uncovering the paths to effective collaboration and successful entrepreneurship. brickandwonder.comCopyright 2025 Brick & Wonder Art Economics Leadership Management & Leadership
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  • Nick Schiffer & James Robb
    Oct 28 2025

    Today on the Brick & Wonder podcast we sat down with custom home builder and industry thought leader Nick Schiffer and James Robb, co-founder of Madera, specialists in hardwood finishes.

    Recorded at 45 White Oak, an ambitious home Nick has developed and built in Wellesley, Massachusetts, this candid conversation explores how to have challenging conversations with clients, the ups and downs of business ventures that don’t yet pencil, and their goal of productizing their practices to create more seamless client experiences.

    This episode is brought to you by Reilly Architectural, known for their custom windows and doors, and Madera, specialists in handcrafted wood floors and Seamless Wood Design® solutions.

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    54 mins
  • Sam Alison-Mayne & Jing Liu
    Sep 23 2025

    This week on the Brick & Wonder podcast, we sat down with developer Sam Alison-Mayne of Tankhouse and architect Jing Liu of SO-IL, whose long-running collaboration is reshaping multifamily housing in Brooklyn.

    Beginning with this episode, Ravi Arps joins as co-host of the podcast. Ravi is the founder and principal of Plane, a construction company based in New York City and the Hudson Valley.

    This episode is brought to you by Reilly Architectural, known for their custom windows and doors, and Madera, specialists in handcrafted wood floors and Seamless Wood Design® solutions.

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    50 mins
  • Ravi Arps & Max Michel
    Aug 28 2025

    This week we were joined by Ravi Arps, the founder and principal of Plane, a general contracting company, and Max Michel, the owner of M2 Finish Works, a cabinetry and finished carpentry contractor.

    They explore the shifting definition of perfection in handmade construction, building trust with clients and collaborators, and how an obsession with solving for scale in the industry keeps them up at night.

    This episode is brought to you by Reilly Architectural, known for their custom windows and doors, and Madera, specialists in handcrafted wood floors and Seamless Wood Design® solutions.

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    49 mins
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