Episodes

  • Keep Showing Up Pt.1
    Oct 24 2025

    In this episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, four evangelist interns — Noah, Aaron, Caleb, and Ethan — join the conversation to unpack Keep Showing Up: A Utah Pastor’s Journey by Pastor Scott McKinney, who faithfully served over 30 years at Center Point Church in Orem, Utah.

    Together with host Pastor Mark Parsons, the interns explore what it means to serve in the heart of Mormon country and how McKinney’s story reveals the challenges, joys, and gospel-centered perseverance required in ministry. They discuss:

    • How McKinney’s personal story and early experiences shaped his heart for outreach in LDS communities.
    • The shift from a“fortress mentality” to a mission-driven mindset focused on loving people as God does.
    • The struggle between measuring ministry “success” by numbers versus faithfulness to the gospel.
    • Why less is more—and how “Jesus is enough” counters the gospel of “more” found in Mormon culture.
    • Key lessons for future pastors on building relationships, showing empathy, and keeping the main thing the main thing.

    Filled with thoughtful reflections and practical takeaways, this episode encourages all Christians—not just future pastors—to “keep showing up” with the love of Christ, even in challenging ministry environments.

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    50 mins
  • Witnessing Christ at Mormon Temple Open Houses
    Oct 10 2025

    Witnessing Christ Podcast: Grand Junction Temple Experience

    Each time a new Latter-day Saint temple opens, Christians have a unique opportunity to understand Mormon beliefs better and lovingly point people to the true temple—Christ himself.

    In this episode, Pastor Mark Parsons and our evangelist interns share their experience touring the Grand Junction Temple during its open house and leading a Build Bridges, Not Barriers witnessing conference. Together, they discuss what they saw, the conversations they had, and how these experiences shaped their hearts for the lost.

    Listeners will gain insight into:

    • What temple open houses reveal about the LDS view of worthiness, family, and eternal life
    • Simple, respectful ways to start gospel conversations in LDS settings
    • Why witnessing isn’t about winning arguments—but planting seeds and trusting the Holy Spirit

    Whether you’ve never stepped inside an LDS temple or you regularly talk with Mormon friends, this episode will encourage you to approach every interaction with compassion, confidence, and Christ at the center.

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    55 mins
  • Witnessing Christ from General Conference: October 2025
    Oct 10 2025

    In this episode of Witnessing Christ, host Pastor Mark Parsons welcomes this year’s four evangelist interns—Ethan, Noah, Caleb, and Aaron—for a special discussion on the October General Conference of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Each intern brings firsthand insights from watching or attending local sessions, reflecting on the experience through the lens of gospel-centered outreach.

    Introducing the Interns

    Listeners meet the 2024–25 intern cohort: Ethan, a soon-to-be Lutheran pastor from Minnesota; Caleb, an avid outdoorsman from an Air Force family; Noah, a second-year seminarian newly married to his high school sweetheart; and Aaron, the group’s youngest member and duck boat driver from Wisconsin Dells. Each shares their background and passion for outreach.

    Initial Impressions of General Conference

    The interns discuss the atmosphere of the LDS General Conference—its polished formality and emotional weight following the recent death of President Russell M. Nelson. Dallin Oaks presided, reaffirming the 1995 Family: A Proclamation to the World, which reemphasized traditional LDS views on marriage, gender, and eternal family structures.
    Several interns note the grandeur and emotional tone yet describe a recurring sense of emptiness—a focus on effort and presentation without the assurance of grace.

    Highlights from Individual Talks

    Each intern unpacks a specific conference message:

    • Aaron reviews Dieter F. Uchtdorf’s Do Your Part with All Your Heart, noting the stress-inducing message of wholehearted effort. The team contrasts this with biblical assurance that Jesus did His part completely.
    • Caleb examines Gary Stevenson’s Blessed Are the Peacemakers, which focuses on harmony in families. He observes that true peace begins with reconciliation to God through Christ, not merely human effort.
    • Ethan explores Chad H. Webb’s That All May Be Edified, which emphasizes learning through obedience. He notes the talk’s subtle shift from gospel promise to personal performance, redefining grace as something accessed through covenant keeping.
    • Noah analyzes Michael Cziesla's Simplicity in Christ, which promises peace through continual diligence. He contrasts this with the true simplicity of the gospel—that Christ has done everything necessary for eternal life with God.

    Pastor Parsons and the interns reflect that across the talks, Christ was often mentioned but rarely proclaimed as the one who accomplished redemption fully. Instead, obedience and covenant-keeping were emphasized as the means to access grace.

    Pastor Parsons also highlights two significant LDS updates:

    1. A pause on new temple announcements
    2. A reported surge in conversions

    Witnessing Reflections

    The conversation closes with key takeaways for Christian witnesses:

    • Ask Mormons open-ended questions about what Jesus has done for them and what they base their faith on—their testimony or Christ’s finished work.
    • Listen with curiosity and compassion, creating a safe space for doubts and reflection.
    • Point conversations from human effort toward divine grace, emphasizing reconciliation through Jesus alone.
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    1 hr
  • Jesus Is Enough: Emilie's Story Pt. 4/4
    Sep 26 2025

    This week on Jesus Is Enough, we bring you the powerful conclusion to Emilie’s story of leaving Mormonism after 39 years and finding true freedom in Christ.

    After a lifetime of striving for perfection, Emilie finally encounters the promises of Scripture—assurances of mercy, peace, and a God far greater than she ever imagined. The weight of works-based faith gives way to the comfort of knowing that she can boldly approach God’s throne, not because of what she’s done, but because of what Jesus has already accomplished.

    Mark and Molly Parsons reflect on Emilie’s testimony, highlighting the peace of Philippians 4 and the hope of Hebrews 4, and showing how the gospel transforms anxiety, perfectionism, and fear into confidence, rest, and joy. Emilie’s journey reminds us that the true God is bigger, more merciful, and more loving than we could ever earn—and that in Christ, we are hidden, forgiven, and free.

    Tune in and be encouraged: Jesus really is enough.

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    28 mins
  • Jesus Is Enough: Emilie's Story Pt. 3/4
    Sep 19 2025

    This week on Jesus Is Enough, we bring you Part 3 of Emilie’s moving story of leaving Mormonism after 39 years and discovering the true hope of Jesus.

    As Emilie enters marriage, she clings to the belief that she has finally found stability. But just when hope begins to rise, tragedy strikes—shattering her world and forcing her to confront the painful reality of works-based faith. The devastating loss not only impacts Emilie but also reveals how deeply the message of perfectionism had entangled her family, leaving them burdened by an impossible standard.

    Mark and Molly Parsons reflect on this heartbreaking chapter of Emilie’s journey, helping listeners see the crushing weight of Mormonism’s demand for perfection—and the liberating truth of the gospel. They share how Emilie’s story points us back to the cleansing power of Christ’s blood, which offers forgiveness for every sin and a confidence to boldly approach God’s throne, not because of what we’ve done, but because of what Jesus has done for us.

    Tune in and be reminded: even in life’s deepest tragedies, Jesus is enough.

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    28 mins
  • Jesus Is Enough: Emilie's Story Pt. 2/4
    Sep 12 2025

    This week on Jesus Is Enough, we bring you Part 2 of Emilie’s powerful journey of leaving Mormonism after 39 years and discovering the freedom found in Jesus.

    Emilie continues to wrestle with perfectionism, seeking validation in a new, unexpected relationship. But as the pressure mounts and long-held secrets come to light, the carefully constructed facade of her life—and the foundation of her Mormon faith—begins to crumble. In the midst of uncertainty and self-doubt, God’s truth starts to break through, revealing that grace is not something to earn but a gift freely given.

    Mark and Molly Parsons reflect on Emilie’s experiences, guiding listeners to understand the struggles of those trapped in works-based religion and how the love of Christ offers true freedom. Through Emilie’s story, we see the tension between striving for perfection and resting in the sufficiency of Jesus, a tension that resonates with anyone burdened by the impossible demands of earning God’s favor.

    Tune in and be reminded: your worth isn’t measured by performance—Jesus is enough.

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    28 mins
  • Jesus Is Enough: Emilie's Story Pt. 1/4
    Sep 5 2025

    This week on Jesus Is Enough, we bring you Part 1 of Emilie’s compelling story of leaving Mormonism after 39 years and discovering the life-changing truth of Jesus.

    Raised in a devout Latter-day Saint home, Emilie spent decades striving to be perfect—perfectly obedient, perfectly righteous, perfectly enough to earn God’s favor. Her faith was measured in works, her worth tied to performance, and the weight of perfectionism pressed heavily on her every day. She believed that only by cleaning herself up and achieving a certain level of righteousness could she approach God.

    But as Emilie’s story unfolds, God begins to show her that salvation is not something she can earn. Through the lens of her upbringing, Emilie’s journey highlights the contrast between striving under the law and resting in the grace of Jesus. Her story is a vivid reminder that God’s love isn’t transactional—it’s freely given.

    Mark and Molly Parsons offer reflections that guide listeners to understand Emilie’s experience, helping Christians cultivate empathy and courage when engaging with friends still bound by works-based faith. They explore how Mormon teachings on obedience and “blessings earned” can trap believers in a cycle of performance, and how the perfect obedience of Christ offers true freedom.

    Tune in and be reminded: you don’t have to earn God’s favor—Jesus is enough.

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    28 mins
  • Jesus Is Enough: Erik's Story Pt. 5/5
    Aug 29 2025

    This week, we bring you the final chapter of Erik’s Jesus is Enough story—a journey of healing, grace, and new beginnings.

    After navigating the pain of divorce and the upheaval of his former life, Erik begins to embrace his new reality. In the midst of uncertainty, he encounters someone whose life demonstrates the unearned grace of God in a way he had never seen before—showing him that even those who feel most undeserving are fully known and fully loved. For Erik, this realization marks a turning point, as he leans fully into faith in Jesus Christ rather than relying on performance or self-effort.

    Following Erik’s story, Mark and Molly Parsons reflect on the profound power of grace, especially in contexts—like Mormonism—where it is often misunderstood or overlooked. They discuss how God meets broken people in their need, offering hope and transformation, and how true faith isn’t about control or checklist obedience, but about surrender to Christ.

    This episode is a powerful conclusion to Erik’s story, reminding us that grace doesn’t just cover our past mistakes—it opens the door to new chapters, new relationships, and a life built on the unshakable foundation of Jesus.

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    28 mins