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Jenny and Sarah lay down the leadership boundaries that keep their teams sane, their workdays functional, and their patience intact.

From bosses who brag about “open door” policies but vanish when the tough stuff hits, to leaders who think skipping lunch is a sign of commitment (spoiler: it’s not), they’re calling out the habits that quietly wreck morale, and the ones that actually build trust.

You’ll get:

• Boundaries that protect your time and your credibility
• How follow-through turns you from “just a manager” into a trusted leader
• HR horror stories about leaders who couldn’t manage a coffee order, let alone a team

Respecting your boundaries is the first step to getting anyone else to respect them too.

Highlights:
[00:02] “Non-negotiables” without the corporate handbook jargon
[08:15] When “availability” turns into a 24/7 leash
[19:45] The follow-up that shifted team trust overnight
[34:20] Why skipping lunch is a terrible leadership flex
[47:10] Red flags that scream “don’t follow this person”

What’s your leadership non-negotiable? DM us @‌WTFisBusinessCasual or send a voice note, we might share it in a future episode.

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Jenny and Sarah get real (and a little vulnerable) about what it actually looks like to build something together when your brains couldn’t be wired more differently.

From inner monologues that never shut up to brains that see zero pictures when they read (yes, it’s a thing), they unpack how wildly different mental wiring shows up at work, in friendships, and in every tense “are you mad at me?” conversation they’ve ever had.

They talk through:

• Why friction between “big‑picture idea people” and “process‑first planners” isn’t a flaw, it’s the secret sauce
• How knowing each other’s operating systems changed the way they brainstorm, decide, and stay (mostly) sane
• Why psychological safety isn’t just a buzzword, and why your team won’t share their best ideas without it

And yes, there’s laughter, a few cold‑plunge confessions, and plenty of “holy crap, you see it THAT way?” moments.

Great teams aren’t made of clones. They’re built on trust, tension, and a lot of honest conversations.

Highlights:
[00:02] Inner dialogue, color‑coded days, and the shock of finding out not everyone pictures an apple in their head
[25:10] Why Jenny blurts ideas like fireworks and Sarah needs two hours (and a spreadsheet) to process them
[39:45] That time Sarah felt squashed and Jenny felt shut down and why naming it mattered
[52:00] Quick starts vs. deep thinkers and why teams need both
[1:04:20] What Clifton Strengths taught them about each other (and why “restorative” isn’t just being negative)
[1:15:00] Cold plunges, last‑minute chaos, and how showing up late can still get the job done

Tell us:
Are you the big‑idea quick‑start or the thoughtful process‑first type?
DM us! We love seeing how real teams actually work.

Hit play! Because it turns out, opposites don’t just attract… they build some pretty badass businesses too.

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Jenny and Sarah get real about how the pressure to always exceed expectations at work is quietly fueling burnout, quiet quitting, and toxic workplace culture.

They swap HR stories (some hilarious, some horrifying) about leaders who demand 24/7 peak performance, and the human cost that follows. It’s messy, honest, and painfully relatable for anyone who’s ever felt PTO guilt or caught themselves trying to be “on” all the damn time.

Inside, they break down:

• A reality check on why “exceeds expectations” has replaced “meets” as the new normal, and why that’s a problem
• What marathon training can teach us about peak performance, recovery, and sustainable success at work
• Tips for actually taking PTO without guilt (and why your boss emailing on vacation screws everyone)

This one’s for you if:

• You’re burned out from always overperforming
• You feel guilty about using your PTO (stop that)
• You lead a team and secretly worry they’re about to ghost you

Because guess what? Showing up, doing your job, and then going home? That’s actually enough.

Highlights:
[00:02] School drop-offs, chaotic mornings, and why women’s mornings hit different
[12:30] The corporate hamster wheel: no valleys, only endless peaks
[25:10] Marathon training as a metaphor for work (and why it matters)
[39:45] Why “meets expectations” should actually be the goal
[52:00] Leaders, boundaries, and taking real time off (yes, actually unplugging)
[1:04:20] Why people quit without another job lined up and why that should scare companies
[1:15:00] Sarah’s surprise party, Diet Coke bets, and husbands who think sweaty gym clothes are dinner-ready

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