In this episode of Unmitigated, host Van Carlson sits down with David Spann, Vistage Chair and executive coach, to explore how peer groups, outside perspective, and structured leadership development can transform the way founders lead. They discuss the challenges of founder dependency, the value of diverse viewpoints, and how Vistage helps business owners grow with intention, clarity, and accountability.

In this episode of Unmitigated, host Van Carlson sits down with Jared Maybon, EOS Implementer and organizational growth expert, to explore the hidden risks of founder dependency and the power of operational systems to unlock sustainable growth. Drawing from his own journey scaling a homebuilding company and now guiding others through the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS), Jared shares how implementing structure can transform chaos into clarity. Van and Jared discuss the leadership challenges of rapid scaling, the importance of culture and accountability, and why systems, not superheroes, are the key to long-term success. Tune in to listen to Van and Jared reflect on their own experiences to show how having the right systems in place can bring clarity, help teams stay on the same page, and support growth that lasts

In this episode of Unmitigated, host Van Carlson sits down with Stephen Cilley, Founder and Chairman of Ataraxis, to unpack the often-overlooked risks in HR and how they can impact the bottom line. From onboarding and employee handbooks to wrongful termination and EPLI claims, Van and Stephen explore the complexities of today’s employment landscape—especially for companies operating in multiple states. With a blend of real-world examples and practical advice, they highlight how partnering with a proactive PEO can mitigate liability, strengthen company culture, and even improve employee retention. Tune in to learn how risk management and HR are more connected than you think—and why getting it wrong can cost more than you realize.