in this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, host Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Steve Perry, founder of The Well Recruiting Solutions. Steve’s journey is anything but ordinary — from starting as a 20-year-old financial advisor in Alaska, to becoming the youngest senior partner at New York Life, to walking away from a \$900k corporate career to build something truly his own. We dive into: 🔹 Why he left corporate success behind to launch a niche recruiting firm for wealth management companies 🔹 His unconventional approach to leadership and why he rejects the idea of “servant leadership” 🔹 How he balances structure with adaptability in fast-changing environments 🔹 The surprising business lesson of *never hitting your goals* — and why that’s a strength If you’re an entrepreneur, executive, or growth-minded professional, you’ll get both inspiration and practical wisdom from this conversation. ✨ Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and hit the bell so you never miss an episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, host Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Leah Carter, Head of Digital Product and Consumer Engagement at Reckitt for Enfamil.

Leah shares her journey from graphic design to leading a large team at a major corporation — and how she’s stayed true to her own way of doing things while navigating corporate life. From the power of asking for what you want, to redefining success as a leader, to giving (and receiving) feedback that actually helps people grow, Leah’s insights are both refreshing and practical.

We cover:

• Why “reading the room” might be your most underrated leadership skill

• How to manage people smarter than you — and why that’s a strength, not a threat

• The fine line between personal and professional life at work

• Dealing with imposter syndrome and speaking up anyway

It’s a candid, inspiring conversation for anyone who wants to lead with confidence, empathy, and a bit of rule-breaking flair.

Welcome to another episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom!🎙️ I’m your host, Kim Miller-Hershon, and this is the show where clichés come to retire—and fresh thinking we inspire.

I’m absolutely thrilled to be speaking with Brandon V. Woodward—a powerhouse business attorney, straight-shooting leader, and real talker on everything from the courtroom to the conference room.

With over two decades of experience in business litigation, foreclosures, bankruptcy, and complex mergers, Brandon V. Woodward brings a wealth of legal expertise to the table. But what makes this conversation truly unmissable isn’t just his knowledge—it’s his unfiltered insight into what it really takes to lead a successful firm.

Here’s a taste of what we dive into:

The identity crises that happen when your business grows faster than you do

What it means to lead a company where loyalty flows both ways

The ongoing dance of charging what your work is truly worth

Why being the calm one at work can leave you falling apart at home

How he deals with the voice that still asks, “Who do you think you are?”—even after 25 years in business

Brandon pulls back the curtain on what it means to grow, lead, and stay grounded—without losing yourself or your standards along the way.

🎧 If you're leading at the edge of what you know, this one's for you.

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In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with tech entrepreneur and startup founder Eric McHugh for a truly thought-provoking conversation on what it means to lead from within. Eric shares his unique philosophy that blends mindfulness, spirituality, and business — including how meditation, energetic alignment, and "help-offs" can drive real innovation and better leadership. Eric also dives into the origin story of his AI-powered matchmaking platform, *Dating*, and explains how it’s radically rethinking human connection and relationships using data, intuition, and a layer of AI personalized for both individuals in a couple. Topics we cover: * Why leadership isn’t about control, but about support * The power of “as within, so without” in business * How crypto and startup cultures reshape traditional management * Why slowing down can lead to your biggest breakthroughs * The AI dating platform built to match a billion happy couples * What Eric would rewrite in today’s leadership playbook 🌀 Whether you’re a founder, leader, or just curious about the intersection of consciousness and tech, this episode will leave you with insights that challenge the norm and expand your thinking. 👍 Like this video 💬 Drop a comment & share your favorite part 🔔 Subscribe for more inspiring conversations like this

In this Episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom Podcast Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Alan McLaren —former public company CEO and personal branding expert—to unpack what real leadership looks like today.

You’ll hear why:

• Your 5-year plan is probably holding you back

• Speed matters more than perfection

• Leading with heart isn’t soft—it’s strategic

• Imposter syndrome hits everyone (and how to move through it)

Plus:

→ The leadership trap that’s burning out great CEOs

→ Why self-management beats time management

Whether you’re running a company, a team, or your own next big chapter—this episode will challenge how you lead, work, and show up in the world. 👍 Like this video 💬 Drop a comment & share your favorite part 🔔 Subscribe for more inspiring conversations like this

In this powerful episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom Podcast, Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with Barbara Stevenson, a creative agency CEO who’s flipping conventional leadership on its head.

Barbara shares:

Why supporting your team is more powerful than directing them

How she balances creative freedom with quality standards

What Trader Joe’s can teach us about brand consistency vs. customer perception

Her approach to risk, discomfort, and growth as a business strategy

How she manages imposter syndrome—and why the people who trigger it may not be your people.

This episode is packed with real talk, laughter, and insight that will challenge how you lead, how you work, and how you see yourself. 🎧 Hit play if you're ready to lead with courage, discomfort, and authenticity.

In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, host Kim Miller-Hershon sits down with serial entrepreneur and real estate leader Betsy Pepine to unpack what it really means to chart your own path—and why breaking the mold can lead to your most authentic success.

From walking away from a preordained path in medicine to launching a multifaceted real estate empire, Betsy shares candid stories of risk, reinvention, and the mindset shifts that fueled her growth. We dive into the unexpected loneliness of leadership, how to turn failure into feedback, and why building meaningful relationships—not just making sales—is the true key to business longevity.

Along the way, you'll hear about:

How Betsy pivoted from pharma to real estate at age 37

The myth of “safe” careers—and what true security really means

Why authenticity and ownership matter more than having all the answers

A fresh perspective on service-driven sales

The value of asking: “How can I make this right?” or “What could I have done better?”

Plus, Betsy opens up about writing her first book, Breaking Boxes, and the imposter syndrome that came with it—offering a vulnerable and inspiring reminder that growth comes from stepping into the unknown.

If you're tired of conventional paths and ready to embrace your own version of success, this episode is for you.

🎧 Listen, subscribe, and leave a review to help others discover the power of unconventional thinking.

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In this powerful episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, Albert Romani, a seasoned talent agent, psychology professor, and author What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How to **overcome fear of success** and stop self-sabotage in your career. Powerful ways to **reframe rejection** so it doesn’t crush your confidence. and so many more. Whether you’re in the performing arts, entrepreneurship, or climbing the corporate ladder, this conversation delivers practical mindset tips, business strategies, and motivational advice to help you succeed. Albert shares real-life examples from the entertainment industry that apply far beyond Hollywood, offering guidance on how to navigate challenges, keep going after setbacks, and build unshakable self-belief. 👉 Don’t miss this inspiring episode packed with practical strategies for personal growth, career resilience, and mental health.