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In this live episode from the AFP Annual Conference in Boston, host Ernie Humphrey sits down with Anders Meinert Jørgensen, CEO of Avallone and a long-time banking and compliance leader. Together, they dive into the realities of KYC, the evolving expectations of banks and corporates, counterparty risk, fraud, sanctions, AI-driven automation, and why KYC has become the biggest driver of dissatisfaction in corporate banking. True to the show’s format, Anders also faces a mix of “truth” and “dare” challenges, including an unforgettable George Clooney story and two improvised songs from Ernie.

Anders Meinert Jørgensen spent over 21 years in banking, including senior roles in compliance across major institutions, before co-founding Avallone, a platform built to remove the operational pain of KYC for corporates and banks. His work focuses on simplifying and accelerating KYC, improving data quality, and driving collaborative bank-corporate relationships.

• Why KYC has become the #1 source of corporate banking dissatisfaction
• How evolving regulations, sanctions, and geopolitics drive counterparty due diligence
• How banks are shifting from siloed KYC approaches to data reuse and collaboration
• Why companies must treat KYC as part of strategic risk management
• How AI is transforming KYC through automation, questionnaire responses, and workflow relief

• [00:00] - Introduction
• [01:55] - Anders’ Background in Banking and Compliance
• [03:04] - What Treasury Professionals Are Most Passionate About
• [05:45] - Internal Buy-In: Making KYC Matter to CFOs and Leadership
• [09:18] - Anders’ Embarrassing George Clooney Moment
• [10:07] - Dare: Ernie Sings “Sweet Caroline” (KYC Remix)
• [12:31] - How Client Conversations Have Shifted from 2023
• [13:57] - The “Low-Hanging Fruit” in Fixing KYC Processes
• [16:09] - Inspiration for “Run KYC” Branding
• [16:42] - What’s Next for Avallone: AI Expansion & Bank Integrations
• [17:31] - Closing Message: Using KYC to Earn Strategic Influence

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In this episode of Treasury Truth or Dare, host Ernie Humphrey is joined by Paul Bramwell, Enterprise Treasury Lead at Trovata. With over 35 years in the treasury space, Paul shares hard-earned insights on treasury technology, the hidden issue of “knowledge decay,” and how intuitive systems can drive strategic value. Through rounds of truth and dare, the conversation blends serious treasury talk with candid humor, including wardrobe mishaps and karaoke challenges.

Paul Bramwell is a veteran treasury leader whose experience spans corporate treasury, fintech, consulting, and product development. He’s worked at industry giants like SunGard, EY, and Kyriba, and now leads enterprise treasury efforts at Trovata. Known for his tech-forward mindset and passion for helping teams unlock the full potential of their systems, Paul brings decades of knowledge and a healthy dose of personality to every conversation.

Expect to Learn

• Why most companies only use 20% of their treasury systems, and how to change that
• What separates Trovata from traditional TMS providers
• How training, curiosity, and user experience drive better tech ROI
• The power of networking in a tightly connected treasury world
• Paul’s “three wishes” to modernize the industry, from API standards to blockchain payments

Episode Breakdown with Timestamps

• [00:00] - Introduction
• [01:47] - Paul’s background at Treasury
• [03:50] - Why Paul Joined Trovata
• [07:01] - Treasury Passion and Focus areas for Growth
• [11:24] - Embarrassing Treasury Career Moments
• [13:30] - Dare for the Host
• [14:36] - Networking and Career Growth
• [19:50] - Paul’s 3 Wishes for Treasury
• [22:17] - Final Thoughts and Upcoming Events

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In this episode of Treasury Truth or Dare, host Ernie Humphrey is joined by Leonardo Gil, VP of Product at Bottomline. They explore the evolving role of treasury professionals, innovations in cash forecasting, and the strategic importance of visibility, technology, and collaboration. Through a fun round of “Truth or Dare”, Leonardo shares his insights on modern treasury tools, organizational leadership, and even his favorite guilty pleasure film.

Leonardo Gil leads innovation in treasury and payment solutions. With experience across global markets and a customer-centric approach to product design, Leonardo’s work aims to simplify and empower treasury teams with smarter, scalable tools.

• How to simplify treasury operations using AI and intuitive UX
• The strategic role of treasury in enterprise risk and investment planning
• Common myths about treasury that limit professional appeal
• Why forecasting remains treasury’s biggest opportunity
• A candid look at leadership, learning from mistakes, and... The Godfather: Part II

Episode Breakdown with Timestamps:

• [00:00] - Introduction
• [01:43] - Meet the Guest: Leonardo Gil
• [02:31] - What drives Leonardo’s passion
• [03:59] - Inspiration behind the Bottomline
• [07:03] - Least Favorite Part of the Job
• [08:02] - Ernie’s Career Mistake in Treasury
• [11:36] - Why Treasury is exciting
• [13:23] - Leonardo’s Guilty Pleasure
• [14:54] - Treasury Myths & Strategic Influence
• [18:28] - Final Question: Treasury’s Top Challenge
• [19:58] - Closing & Learn More about Bottomline.

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In this episode of Treasury Truth or Dare, host Ernie Humphrey sits down with Mickaël Jordan, the Chief Revenue Officer at Agicap. They explore the company’s journey, from its early days in Europe to expanding into the U.S, and how they are revolutionizing cash flow management for small and medium-sized businesses. Mikael shares his insights on the evolving role of treasury, the importance of creating a cash culture within organizations, and how treasury professionals can become trusted strategic partners. He also offers a personal glimpse into managing a multi-generational team and balancing work-life challenges.

Mickael Jordan is the Chief Revenue Officer, North America, at Agicap, a leading financial technology company focused on revolutionizing cash flow management for small and medium-sized businesses (SMBs). Mikael’s journey in the treasury space spans several years, and he joined Agicap in 2019, helping to lead the company’s expansion into the U.S. His work focuses on strategic growth and building relationships with key clients across the globe.

Expect to Learn:

• How Mickael Jordan transitioned from a small team at Agicap to leading a global organization across multiple markets.
• The strategic decisions behind Agicap’s expansion to the U.S. and the lessons learned from market validation.
• Why trust and transparency are key to managing younger teams and how to foster a sense of purpose.
• The importance of creating a cash culture within organizations and how treasury professionals can take ownership.
• Insights into optimizing cash management, including the often-overlooked topic of managing excess cash effectively.

Episode Breakdown with Timestamps:

• [00:00] - Introduction to the Episode
• [02:02] - Mickael Jordan’s Background and Agicap’s Evolution
• [05:20] - The U.S. Expansion Journey
• [06:51] - Second round of Truth or Dare
• [11:10] - Increase the awareness of the Treasury profession
• [15:20] - Hidden Talent of Mikael
• [16:36] - Dare to Ask: Mistakes in Managing Teams
• [18:48] - Focus on Treasury areas
• [24:27] - Key Takeaways for Treasury Professionals
• [27:05] - Closing Remarks

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In this episode of Treasury Truth or Dare, host Ernie Humphrey sits down with Wade Olsen, co-founder of Treasury Suite, to explore the complexities of the Treasury profession, the challenges of adopting new technology, and the importance of trust in the workplace. Wade shares his insights into how the Treasury industry has evolved, the impact of technology on Treasury operations, and the crucial need for Treasury professionals to become trusted advisors within their organizations. The conversation also dives into Wade’s most embarrassing Treasury moment, the challenges of balancing work-life commitments, and the current opportunities for professionals in the field of Treasury.

Wade Olsen is the co-founder of Treasury Suite, a software platform designed to simplify and streamline Treasury operations. With a background in technology and a wealth of experience in corporate Treasury, Wade’s insights into the industry are invaluable, especially when it comes to understanding the role of technology in shaping the future of Treasury management. He has extensive experience running multinational Treasury departments and has made significant contributions to improving Treasury operations, creating a platform that bridges the gap between functionality and user experience.

• How Wade Olsen transitioned from traditional Treasury roles to co-founding Treasury Suite.
• The challenges Wade faced when integrating new technology into Treasury operations, especially complex systems like TMS (Treasury Management Systems).
• Why trust is essential for Treasury professionals to succeed and become trusted advisors within their organizations.
• Insights into the future of AI and technology in Treasury, and the importance of simplifying complex systems for better usability.
• Wade’s personal journey of professional growth and overcoming work-life balance challenges in the high-stakes world of corporate Treasury.

Episode Breakdown with Timestamps

• [00:00] - Introduction to Treasury Insights
• [03:10] - Wade Olsen’s Background and Treasury Evolution
• [05:05] - The Inspiration Behind Treasury Suite
• [07:24] - The Truth or Dare Round Begins
• [10:00] - AI and Treasury: Shifting Focus
• [14:30] - Dare to Ask: Engaging with People Outside Normal Personality
• [16:20] - Wade’s Guilty Pleasure: Caddyshack
• [18:53] - Increasing Treasury Awareness in Younger Generations
• [20:33] - Key Takeaways for Treasury Professionals
• [23:07] - Closing Remarks

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In this episode of Treasury Truth or Dare, host Ernie Humphrey sits down with Rob Hilbert, a Senior Treasury Analyst at Kontoor Brands. Rob takes us on a journey through his career, sharing insights into his transition from the restaurant industry to the dynamic world of Treasury. He explores how the role of Treasury is evolving, the impact of artificial intelligence on Treasury operations, and the importance of networking and emotional intelligence for career growth.

Rob Hilbert is a global leader in lifestyle apparel. Rob has a diverse career background, starting in the restaurant industry before transitioning into finance and Treasury. His current role at Kontoor Brands allows him to contribute to strategic Treasury functions, including cash forecasting, risk management, and corporate financing. Rob is passionate about the changing landscape of Treasury, particularly the integration of AI tools, and the role of storytelling in Treasury communications.

Expect to Learn

• The evolving role of Treasury, especially in relation to AI tools and global economic uncertainty.
• How networking and emotional intelligence can enhance your career in Treasury.
• Insights on cash forecasting and how Treasury functions at Kontoor Brands.
• Why storytelling is crucial for effective communication within Treasury.
• Rob’s vision for the future of Treasury and how professionals can stay ahead of changes in the industry.

Episode Breakdown with Timestamps

• [00:00] - Introduction
• [01:40] - Rob’s Career Journey: From Restaurants to Treasury
• [03:25] - The Role of AI in Treasury by 2025
• [04:57] - Navigating Global Uncertainty: Treasury’s Response to Tariffs and Costing
• [06:30] - Rob’s Hidden Talent
• [08:49] - Networking and Emotional Intelligence in Career Growth
• [10:56] - The Power of Storytelling
• [18:04] - Rob’s Three Wishes for the Treasury Profession.
• [18:56] - Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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In this episode of Treasury Truth or Dare, host Ernie Humphrey sits down with Sunny Gutta to play a fun game of truth or dare, uncovering truths about the Treasury profession. Sunny shares insights into the myths surrounding Treasury, her career journey, and how she got hooked on the profession. The episode also dives into the strategic role Treasury plays in corporate risk management, capital markets, and M&A activities. It’s a candid discussion about how Treasury professionals impact the financial health and growth of a company.

Sunny Gutta is the Director of Treasury at Reddit, with experience in both large corporations like General Motors and fast-growing companies. She’s passionate about Treasury’s strategic role in risk management, capital markets, and business partnerships. Sunny’s Treasury journey began with a rotational program at General Motors, and she’s now shaping the Treasury function at one of the most dynamic tech companies in the world. Sunny provides a fresh perspective on how Treasury can be both impactful and fun.

Expect to Learn

• The biggest myths about the Treasury profession and how to debunk them.
• Why Treasury is far more than just cash management and payments.
• How Treasury impacts strategic business decisions, including risk management and M&A.
• What makes Treasury such a dynamic and exciting career field.
• How Treasury professionals can better promote their roles within organizations.

Episode Breakdown with Timestamps

• [00:00] - Introduction
• [02:08] - Sunny’s Background in Treasury
• [03:15] - Debunking Treasury Myths
• [06:00] - The Dynamic Role of Treasury
• [10:13] - Treasury's Impact on M&A and Integration
• [17:18] - Gen Z Slang Challenge
• [21:18] - Sunny’s Three Wishes for the Treasury Profession
• [22:20] - Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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In this episode of Treasury Truth or Dare, host Ernie Humphrey sits down with Jermal McDaniel, the Assistant Treasurer at CEA CAPA Education Abroad. Jermal shares his career journey, insights into cash forecasting, and the challenges of working in treasury. From his experience in mortgage treasury to navigating the complexities of international hedging.

Jermal gives advice on managing risks and relationships within the treasury function. He also discusses how building relationships across departments has been crucial in his professional growth and how the treasury profession can support newcomers.

Expect to Learn:

• Importance of cash management and forecasting in treasury.
• How Jermal has adapted from mortgage treasury to FX and hedging roles.
• The role of relationships in improving accuracy and communication in the treasury.
• Building relationships across departments to enhance forecasting and risk management.
• Supporting the next generation of treasury professionals through a dedicated curriculum.
• Jermal’s top three wishes for improving the treasury profession.

In Today’s Episode:

[00:00] - Introduction to Jermal McDaniel and his treasury background.

[02:44] - Jermal’s passion for cash management, forecasting, and hedging.

[04:42] - Least favorite part of professional life

[07:00] - How networking has impacted Jermal's career and approach.

[09:22] - Ernie shares a personal dare about what he dislikes in the profession.

[11:06] - Who Jermal would choose to be stranded with on a desert island – his CFO.

[13:06] - Ideas for creating a treasury curriculum to better support new professionals.

[16:21] - Jermal’s three wishes for improving the treasury profession.

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