In this episode Jonathan welcomes back Erin Doumert: Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, integration coach, and author of The Essential Practice. Together, they dive into the messy, nonlinear path of true healing, exploring how we move from coping to deep transformation.

Erin shares the behind-the-scenes story of publishing her book and the pushback she received for challenging mainstream paradigms.

They discuss the four steps in her healing framework: seeking to understand, forgiving, showing up as your best, and exploring your truth.

This conversation is a real-time integration journey, weaving together themes of inner child healing, spiritual rebellion, nervous system capacity, and the sacredness of rest.

Whether you're navigating expanded states or just trying to get through the day, this episode is a reminder that healing is possible—and it starts with showing up for yourself.

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• Introduces the SCOPE practice from Somatic Experiencing: Slow down, Connect, Orient, Pendulate, Engage

• Offers a guided somatic experience to support nervous system regulation during psychedelic work, breathwork, or emotional overwhelm

• Emphasizes the importance of developing inner awareness and safety through body-based techniques

• Encourages self-regulation and co-regulation through connection, breath, and sensation tracking

• Useful both as a standalone regulation tool and within a therapeutic or expanded state container

  
  

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  In this episode, Jonathan guides you through a simple yet powerful somatic practice known as SCOPE—designed to support nervous system regulation in moments of intensity, whether during breathwork, psychedelic journeys, or emotional overwhelm.

  Learn how to:

  • Slow your system down

  • Connect to your body

  • Orient toward safety

  • Pendulate between discomfort and ease

  • Engage with support and connection

  This episode includes a full guided SCOPE practice that you can revisit anytime you need grounding or reconnection. It's perfect for inner work, integration, or simply regulating a charged moment.

  🌀 If this resonated, leave a review, share with a friend, or reach out for a 1:1 session.

In this powerful conversation, Diana Medina—senior teacher of Holotropic Breathwork—joins Jonathan to explore what it really means to trust your inner healer. Drawing from decades of experience in breathwork, medicine, and transpersonal psychology, Diana shares how true transformation requires us to die to who we think we are and surrender to the deeper intelligence within.

Together, they discuss the spiral nature of healing, how trauma completes through the body, and why integration is not a destination but a daily practice. If you're a space holder, therapist, or seeker navigating expanded states, this episode offers grounded wisdom and deep insight into what it means to truly hold space - for others and yourself.

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Jonathan Schecter is joined again by senior Buddhist teacher, musician, and author David Nichtern for a wide-ranging, deeply reflective conversation.Together they explore how presence and practice intersect with modern expanded states — from breathwork to psychedelics to the possibilities and limitations of AI as a spiritual teacher.

You’ll hear insights on:

✅ Why presence can’t be grasped

✅ The concept of the “fourth moment” in Buddhist practice

✅ How breathwork teaches surrender without substances

✅ The risks of spiritual bypassing in psychedelic spaces

✅ Whether AI can embody consciousness or wisdom

✅ The role of humor, humility, and formal practice

✅ How Buddhist wisdom can evolve to fit modern culture

✅ David's upcoming Mindfulness Meditation Teacher Training

This is an honest and inspiring dialogue on integration, wholeness, and the real work of transformation.

00:00 Intro

05:00 Walking out of time — presence & fourth moment

12:00 Surrender in breathwork vs psychedelics

18:00 The God realm & spiritual bypassing

25:00 Can AI become a spiritual teacher?

34:00 Blind spots, feedback, and the human ego

42:00 Buddha nature & somatic healing

51:00 What do we most need as a collective?

56:00 Basic goodness, genuine sadness, and activism

1:02:00 Dharma Moon teacher training & modern culture

1:10:00 Final reflections — carrying the teachings forward

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What does "doing the work" really mean in psychedelics, breathwork, and personal growth? Join the founder of Blue Magic Alchemy Jonathan Schecter in this conversation to clarify that genuine transformation isn't about chasing intense experiences but intentionally moving toward wholeness by addressing deeper issues and thoughtfully integrating insights.

Using a clear physics analogy, Jonathan explains "the work" as the intentional transfer of energy that leads to meaningful changes. He challenges the myth that big experiences automatically result in lasting transformation, highlighting the critical roles of intentional preparation, nervous system regulation, and mindful integration.

With personal examples and powerful client stories, Jonathan reveals how authentic inner work leads to significant shifts: better emotional resilience, breakthroughs in long-standing issues, and spontaneous realizations. He emphasizes the necessity of somatic awareness, meditation, and breathwork for effective preparation.

"Crossing the Threshold," a coaching container designed to help you build a solid foundation for safe, effective, transformative inner work is now open - learn more at www.skool.com/bluemagicalchemy or www.instagram.com/bluemagicalchemy

In this concluding episode of season 10, host Jonathan Schecter reflects on his journey and growth over the season, touching on achievements and outlining plans for what's next. Jonathan emphasizes the importance of self-practice and alignment with the nervous system to avoid burnout. He candidly discusses his balance between various projects and the value of slowing down.

The episode transitions into the first day of a 30-day Path of Meditation course, providing guidance on mindfulness and the end goal of meditation.

Join the community at www.skool.com/bluemagicalchemy for more meditative and breathwork practices. The Vital Point is applying what you learn and creating consistency for personal growth and transformation.

With a Vital Point that "You Are The Medicine", microdosing and integration coach Adrian Lozano joins host Jonathan Schecter to discuss the importance of practicing consistent self-improvement techniques, the essence of proper facilitation, and the wide range of methods available for personal growth. Adrian shares insights into the challenges and profound transformations experienced through the use of sacred mushrooms and emphasizes the necessity of integrating those experiences into everyday life. The conversation also explores the unique healing dynamics of the rave culture, highlighting the balance between recreational and therapeutic uses of psychedelics.

Connect with Adrian at https://www.lozanoflows.com/ and https://www.instagram.com/lozano.flows/

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00:00 Introduction to the Vital Point Podcast

05:15 The Importance of Vetting Facilitators

08:06 Personal Experiences with Psychedelics

12:39 Living in the Mountains: A Journey of Healing

19:12 Facilitating Psychedelic Experiences

25:36 Building a Relationship with the Medicine

32:43 Understanding the Amplifying Effects of Mushrooms

37:54 Navigating the Challenges and Benefits of Raving

41:17 The Importance of Integration in Psychedelic Work

52:24 Personal Growth and Professional Work

01:00:00 Upcoming Projects and Final Thoughts

A meditation from the Tibetan Buddhist tradition, based on one of the most well-known teachings of Tilopa, who is considered the father of the Kagyu lineage.

The 6 Nails of Tilopa is known for its depth and profundity in cutting to the vital point of meditation.

This episode also highlights the upcoming Path of Meditation course in the Blue Magic Alchemy Skool community, a 30 day live meditation course to deepen your mindfulness meditation practice along with an optional microdosing protocol.

The course will be available daily to all community members starting April 2, so sign up at www.skool.com/bluemagicalchemy and come deepen your practice with a community of seekers and alchemists.You can skip to 9:35 in the episode if you want to get right into the meditation.