• A new Giga Project for Mecca
    Oct 22 2025

    After a whirlwind month of travel, Lucien and Dr. Hanaa are back on The TWENTY30 Podcast—and strap in, because they have a LOT of catching up to do. A lot has happened in the fast-paced, fast-changing Kingdom over the past few weeks. The hosts try to tackle as much of it as they can in this episode to kick off the season and a regular schedule of content excellence for listeners and viewers.

    In this show, Lucien leads a DEEPDIVE on the latest "Giga Project" coming to Saudi Arabia: The monumental King Salman Gate project—Mecca’s 12 million m² transformation. The new designs and visuals released by authorities are impressive, but so too are the plans for heritage preservation. The move is a play to enhance religious tourism as part of Saudi’s economic diversification. The move also reflects the reality of Saudi Arabia as host to the largest annual human migration event on the planet for millions of followers of Islam, and to make that journey more inspirational, peaceful and safe for visitors to the Kingdom.

    After the DEEPDIVE, the hosts roll up their sleeves for an expanded NEWS segment, covering the launch of Riyadh University of the Arts (RUA), a first-of-its-kind institution nurturing the next generation of Saudi creatives, Saudi’s film industry, Riyadh Fashion Week, MDLBeast Soundstorm 2025 (Cardi B!), and what we know right now about Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman’s planned U.S. visit.

    We're so back!

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    1 hr and 4 mins
  • PWC's Basma Bushnaq on how education in Saudi Arabia has changed
    Oct 16 2025

    Saudi Arabia is now a leading market for education investment. In this conversation, Basma Bushnaq, Partner at PWC, discusses the evolving landscape of schools, the demand for quality teachers, and the future of education in Saudi Arabia and globally. The significant reforms and investment opportunities driven by Vision 2030 has created an almost unrecognizable and booming market in the Kingdom. She shares her personal journey in education, the challenges and opportunities within the sector, and the importance of collaboration and local partnerships in implementing effective educational practices.

    Before the conversation, Hanaa and Lucien, long overdue for a catchup, discuss Lucien's recent trip to the Eastern Province of Saudi Arabia (Hanaa's home town!), Hanaa's recent retreat, "painting the town red" in Riyadh, and more. We're back!

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    50 mins
  • Saudi Arabia's Quiet Revolution: Legal Reforms
    Sep 6 2025

    Back from vacation (so back) and ready to hit the ground running with a normal schedule, the TWENTY30 co-hosts Lucien and Hanaa begin the show by catching up after the break. Then, Hanaa leads an interesting DEEPDIVE segment on Saudi Arabia's "Quiet Revolution," which is major progress with legal reforms for individuals and businesses in the kingdom as it continues to transform. New laws and a series of regulations has made doing business in Saudi Arabia so much easier than before, and legal reforms have empowered women and redefined social issues for the better for citizens and residents. These are changes that don't draw the headlines or curiosity as some giga-projects or sports (for example) but underpin all that's happening in Saudi Arabia.

    After the DEEPDIVE, the hosts discuss HUMAIN and Saudi Arabia's new AI capabilities, solar in Saudi Arabia, and much more.

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    1 hr and 2 mins
  • The impact and investment opportunities of Saudi Arabia's new real estate law
    Aug 8 2025

    Saudi Arabia's transformative new real estate law opens doors for international ownership and is set to redefine the Kingdom's property landscape and charm global investors with new opportunities. Faisal Durrani, partner and head of research for Knight Frank Middle East sits down with co-hosts Lucien and Hanaa to discuss the landmark new law, which allows foreign buyers to buy property in Saudi Arabia.

    The hosts ask Faisal to break down what's in this new law and speak to the impact the law might have on prices, foreign investment, and the potential for the new law to catapult Saudi Arabia toward becoming the world's next hot real estate opportunity.

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    22 mins
  • Author and influencer Ghada AlMuhanna Abalkhail returns to discuss her latest book series and much more...
    Jul 31 2025

    We're so back! And so is Ghada Almuhanna Abalkhail, the TWENTY30's cultural expert, who returns to the show to discuss her latest book series that explores the concept of the Saudi homeland through archival photographs. She shares insights and observations behind creating the books and the photographs that define them, emphasizing the emotional connection to the photographs she selects. Ghada also reflects on the challenges of compiling artifacts and textiles for her work, and highlights influential figures in her life who inspire her passion for cultural heritage and history. The conversation touches on the significance of preserving cultural narratives through photography and the importance of collaboration in her projects.

    After the conversation with Ghada, the hosts catch up on just some of the latest news from Saudi Arabia, including a rise in Saudi millionaires (and wealth equality) in the Kingdom, a new law for foreign ownership of housing, and much more.

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    1 hr and 17 mins
  • Is the nearly $500m for Ronaldo to return worth it?
    Jul 4 2025

    Happy 4th of July! In Episode 57, the hosts catch up after a break and discuss some feedback, including one listener/viewer who asks the hosts to share something that listeners might not know about themselves. Then Lucien leads a Deep Dive into the return of Ronaldo to Saudi Arabia. He's back! While the price tag is massive, it is very likely worth every penny for Saudi Arabia.

    Saudi Arabia is experiencing an extraordinary phase of growth, with undertakings that reinforce its global presence and soft power. The landmark decision for Cristiano Ronaldo to continue his career at Al Nasser - with a staggering price tag - is not merely about football; it's a strategic investment in soft power, one that so far has paid off in measurable and immeasurable ways for the Kingdom. Ronaldo, a global icon with unparalleled influence, enhances the Saudi Pro League's reputation and draws international attention to the kingdom's transformation. He’s also added a real-world dollar value boost to the Kingdom’s diversification goals - one that Lucien attempts to calculate in the Deep Dive.

    Ronaldo’s original move to Saudi Arabia catalyzed an influx of other renowned players like Benzema, Neymar, and many more into the Saudi Pro League, significantly boosting its global profile. Broadcast reach has expanded dramatically, and sponsorship inflows have surged, underscoring football's capacity to act as a uniting force.

    Beyond economic impacts, Ronaldo serves as an aspirational figure for Saudi Arabia’s youth. The kingdom can leverage his global visibility to promote fitness, discipline, and healthy living—cornerstones of a vibrant society envisioned in Vision 2030.

    The hosts then get to the news including:

    •Selfridges, now a PIF company, launches insider member’s only club

    •Michelin Stars are coming to the Kingdom

    •99 future culinary leaders graduate from the ZADK Culinary Arts Academy

    •Expo 2030: A New Horizon in Riyadh, with PIF now on board

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    48 mins
  • Esports World Cup's Faisal Bin Homran takes us inside Saudi Arabia's esports ambitions
    Jun 24 2025

    Faisal Bin Homran, Chief Product Officer at the Esports World Cup Foundation, is at the forefront of a growing esports movement in Saudi Arabia and globally. In the ever-evolving world of gaming, Saudi Arabia is emerging as a major player, actively positioning itself as a global hub for esports. This ambition is making waves worldwide, driven by a strategy backed by none other than His Royal Highness, the Crown Prince - an avid gamer himself.

    Faisal joins hosts Hanaa Almoaibed and Lucien Zeigler on the TWENTY30 for an exclusive conversation about his work overseeing what is now the world's largest esports tournament held annually in Riyadh: the Esports World Cup, which runs from July to August in 2025. With a prize pool of $70m and millions globally expected to tune in or visit to watch live, the Kingdom is betting big on the new sector.

    In the conversation with the TWENTY30, Faisal dives into the intricate ecosystem of organizations driving Saudi Arabia's esports goals. The Esports World Cup Foundation manages the global tournament and brand, while the Saudi Esports Federation handles local tournaments and talent development. Investment and infrastructure are supported by entities like the Public Investment Fund (PIF) and its subsidiaries focused on game development and esports operations. Together, they form a cohesive unit, aligning efforts to establish Saudi Arabia as a center for gaming and esports. integrating consumers and investors into this exciting ecosystem. By hosting diverse events, including the growing Esports World Cup, they aim to convert casual audiences into dedicated esports fans. These efforts are supported by a thriving network of local and international partners, ensuring that every event is a holistic celebration of gaming culture.

    The hosts also ask Faisal about the real-world logistics of hosting the Esports World Cup. Organizing an event of this magnitude is no small feat. Faisal emphasized the importance of meticulous planning and execution, beginning a year in advance. With numerous tournaments, stages, and arenas to manage, the challenge is substantial.

    After the interview with Faisal bin Homran, hosts Lucien and Hanaa catch up on some of the latest news, including some interesting stories from the recent Haj, Saudi big cats in DC, an expectation-breaking performance from the Saudi economy to start 2025, and much more.

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    47 mins
  • Saudi MMA chief Rasha Alkhamis talks growth of combat sports and vision for ecosystem
    Jun 8 2025

    President and Chairwoman of the Saudi Mixed Martial Arts Federation join co-hosts Hanaa and Lucien for an exclusive interview, shedding light on her journey from being the first Saudi woman certified as a boxing coach to holding prominent positions in international sports organizations and her new role as head of the Saudi MMA Federation. Rasha talks with The TWENTY30 about the significant investments and strategies driving the growth in the sport, with ambitious plans under Vision 2030. The 4-time Guinness Book of World Records-holder was also recently named one of ADWEEK’s Most Powerful Women in Sports 2025.

    Before the conversation, the hosts catch up on feedback on Episode 54, with viewers and listeners chiming in on US-Saudi relations. After the conversation with Rasha, the hosts catch up on some of the latest news, including "reports" that alcohol is coming to the Kingdom.

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    59 mins