Episodes

  • Ask Us a Question👇
    Aug 21 2025

    We’re putting together a Q+A episode and would love to hear what’s on your mind right now.

    If you're new here, we're all about deep conversations, exploring spirituality and our values, relational dilemmas and how to live together well, and of course talking about how to be when the world is in crisis.

    We welcome both big and small questions for Elizabeth and the podcast team!

    How to send👇 💌

    - Drop them in the comments for this episode

    - DM us a message / voice note / video on X, TikTok or Instagram

    - Email us at thesacredpodcast@gmail.com


    Speak soon,

    Elizabeth & The Sacred Team

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    3 mins
  • Why Connection Matters Most in Crisis
    Aug 6 2025

    In this reflection episode, Elizabeth steps back from interviews to ask: what’s really staying with me from these conversations?

    We explore themes of gender, division, fear, and the deep longing for connection in a time when everything can feel like it’s falling apart - politically, socially and spiritually.


    We talk about:

    • Why gender is so hard to talk about without blame

    • The “polycrisis” and our collective fight-or-flight

    • How contempt sneaks in and empathy fades

    • Whether old spiritual traditions still have anything to offer

    • And what it takes to stay human (and stay open) in a polarised world


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    💡 Produced by the ‪@thinktanktheos‬ www.theosthinktank.co.uk/

    🌿 Take a break with us in August. Take time to be with your people and "unplug" yourself from the online world. We'll see you in September.

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    18 mins
  • From Republican Darling to Political Outcast with David French
    Jul 30 2025

    What happens when standing by your principles means losing your community?

    David French was once a Republican darling - a military veteran in Iraq, a pro-life lawyer, and a defender of religious liberty. But when he publicly opposed Donald Trump in 2016, everything changed. His church turned on him, his family received threats, and he became controversial figure in political and religious debates.

    In this conversation, David reflects on the cost of choosing virtue over political loyalty, why free speech still matters even when it's painful, and what it’s like to be exiled by your tribe.

    We talk about moral courage, the state of American evangelicalism, and what it means to stay principled in a world that rewards tribalism.


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    📖 Follow Elizabeth Oldfield: www.elizabetholdfield.com/

    💡 Produced by the ‪@thinktanktheos‬ www.theosthinktank.co.uk/

    ✍️ Follow David French: https://x.com/davidafrench?lang=en


    Chapters

    00:00 Intro

    01:07 What is Sacred to you? David French answers

    01:29 Defining Virtue in American Society

    06:26 When Have Your Virtues Been Tested?

    14:42 Formative Experiences and Moral Foundations

    18:40 Political Awakening and Conservative Values

    27:27 The Role of Civil Liberties in Society

    30:47 The Importance of Defending Difficult Speech

    33:31 The Importance of Free Speech

    36:39 Serving in the Iraq war

    39:52 Transformative Experiences of War

    44:10 Political Identity and Church Community Rejection

    50:49 The Impact of Community Rejection

    54:52 Staying True to Principles Over Tribes


    Keywords:

    David French - veteran, constitutional lawyer, political commentator, and lifelong conservative - joins The Sacred to talk about the cost of staying true to his values. In this episode, he shares how refusing to support Donald Trump led to being “cancelled” by his church, receiving threats, and becoming a controversial figure in conservative Christian circles. We explore free speech, religious freedom, evangelical politics, cancel culture, moral courage, integrity, and the crisis of virtue in public life. David speaks about his military service in Iraq, his time defending civil liberties, and why he believes principles should come before political parties. This conversation is for anyone wrestling with faith and politics, Christian identity, the culture wars, the evangelical church, or what it means to live with integrity in polarised times. Topics include: Christian conservatism, Never Trump, leaving church, freedom of speech, spiritual exile, republican, political pressure, and how to remain faithful under fire.

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    1 hr and 9 mins
  • What’s Driving Young Men to Conservatism? Daniel Turner on Masculinity, Abortion & A Crisis of Faith
    Jul 16 2025

    After three incredible years, we're saying goodbye to our producer, Daniel Turner. We sat down with him to reflect on his journey, asking what's making young men conservative?In this special episode of The Sacred, we debrief on what it's like to work on the podcast, explore how leadership failures challenged his faith, talk about masculinity, abortion and the influence of figures like Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson on young men. We discuss generational divides in politics, and reflect on the guests who’ve shaped him most.

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    💡 Produced by the ‪@thinktanktheos‬ www.theosthinktank.co.uk/

    ✍️ Follow Daniel Turner's writing: https://etcet.substack.com/


    Chapters:


    0:00 Intro

    1:19 What is Sacred to you? Daniel Turner answers

    2:23 Fighting to remain curious

    3:33 Growing up in a religious community

    6:28 Why did you leave the community?

    9:32 Moral failures within the church

    10:30 Difficulty reengaging with church

    12:10 Is there a "quiet revival" in church?

    15:15 Getting married and having children young

    20:36 Parenthood and purpose

    22:58 The "manosphere" and masculinity

    27:13 Thoughts on Jordan Peterson

    28:28 Curiosity towards Andrew Tate

    32:00 Choosing Sacred guests

    34:00 Gen Z: apathy, escapism and polarisation

    37:29 The Pro-Life Perspective: Community and Support

    45:29 Final reflections on Three Years with The Sacred


    Key Topics:

    Faith crisis, church trauma, spiritual deconstruction, young Christian experience, masculinity crisis, religious leadership failure, pro-life perspectives, community healing, millennial faith journey, generational spiritual shifts, Catholic charismatic renewal, intellectual curiosity in faith, overcoming church hurt, Jordan Peterson influence, Gen Z spirituality, early marriage and faith, parenting and religious identity, radical forgiveness, navigating religious doubt, Christian masculinity, spiritual resilience, church culture critique, personal transformation, faith and family dynamics, religious community challenges, healing from spiritual abuse, authentic Christian experience, interfaith dialogue, moral complexity in faith, young men's spiritual journey, church leadership accountability, reconciliation after trauma, spiritual questioning, community support systems, religious identity exploration, emotional intelligence in faith, radical listening, intergenerational spiritual conversations, Christian identity reconstruction, spiritual mentorship, faith and cultural shifts, personal testimony, religious freedom, spiritual growth, church trauma recovery, authentic belief, millennial religious experience, spiritual resilience, faith-based personal development, sacred conversations.

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    1 hr
  • Seeking Goodness When Good is Losing with Christine Emba
    Jul 9 2025

    In this bonus episode, Elizabeth Oldfield and Christine Emba dive deep into the heart of what it means to live a good life in turbulent times.

    Recorded in Washington, DC, this intimate discussion explores vulnerability, community, and finding hope when the world feels overwhelming.


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    📖 Follow Elizabeth Oldfield: www.elizabetholdfield.com/

    💡 Produced by the ‪@thinktanktheos‬ www.theosthinktank.co.uk/

    ✍️ Follow Christine: https://x.com/christineemba?lang=en


    Keywords:

    community, resilience, purpose, vulnerability, moral courage, spirituality, friendship, authenticity, connection, meaning, hope, personal growth, wisdom, integrity, social infrastructure, interdependence, faith, trust, compassion, transformation, belonging, self-discovery, empathy, community building, personal values, spiritual strength, emotional intelligence, social connection, mindfulness, resilience, personal development, human connection, inner growth, social awareness, emotional resilience, personal transformation, spiritual journey, community support, self-reflection, moral compass, human potential, personal evolution, social bonds, emotional depth, spiritual practice, personal integrity, community engagement, inner strength, vulnerability, meaningful living

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    1 hr and 1 min
  • Why Western Wellness Can’t Heal Us: Fariha Róisín on Trauma, Islam & Capitalism
    Jul 2 2025

    Fariha Róisín is a poet, Muslim, and survivor of extreme childhood trauma. In this raw, soul-baring conversation, they speak about the long road from abuse to healing - via Islam, queerness, Ayahuasca, and a radical reimagining of wellness.

    This is not your typical conversation about wellness, it's about what healing really takes and why the current wellness industry often gets it so wrong.

    🎧 In this episode:

    - What Western wellness won’t tell you about trauma

    - How Islam became a radical site of healing and resistance

    - Reclaiming the body, queerness, and spiritual power

    - The deeper spiritual technologies beyond capitalism


    ⚠️ Trigger warning: This episode includes discussion of child sexual abuse and self harm.

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    📖 Follow Elizabeth Oldfield: www.elizabetholdfield.com/

    💡 Produced by the ‪@thinktanktheos‬ www.theosthinktank.co.uk/

    ✍️ Follow Fariha: https://www.instagram.com/fariha_roisin/?hl=en


    Chapters:

    00:00 Intro

    01:21 What is Sacred to you? Fariha Answers

    04:51 Childhood Trauma and Its Impact

    08:54 Islam and Personal Identity

    15:26 Queerness and Faith

    20:50 The Intersection of Wellness and Spirituality

    29:10 Rituals and Agency in Modern Life

    32:45 Discerning Wellness: A Critical Perspective

    36:08 The Role of Spirituality and Healing Modalities

    40:12 Ayahuasca: A Transformative Experience

    50:07 Reflections on Faith and Historical Contexts


    Keywords:

    Transformative journey of healing, spirituality, and resistance: Ayahuasca, spiritual healing, trauma recovery, decolonization, decolonisation, Muslim spirituality, queer faith, wellness revolution, intergenerational trauma, plant medicine, indigenous wisdom, childhood abuse survivor, radical self-care, spiritual transformation, colonialism and healing, Islamic feminism, psychedelic therapy, ancestral healing, spiritual awakening, mental health recovery, cultural resilience, holistic wellness, trauma-informed healing, spiritual resistance, alternative medicine, intersectional spirituality, sexual abuse recovery, mindfulness practices, feminist spirituality, postcolonial healing, spiritual empowerment, trauma therapy, queer spirituality, indigenous medicine, wellness culture, spiritual journey, healing from abuse, cultural trauma, spiritual liberation, body-mind healing, radical wellness, spiritual resilience, trauma centred care, cultural identity, spiritual practices, healing rituals, emotional recovery, spiritual guidance, transformative healing, cultural empowerment, spiritual connection, trauma integration, holistic healing, spiritual awakening, cultural healing, trauma-informed spirituality, spiritual growth, healing modalities, cultural transformation, spiritual resilience, trauma recovery techniques.

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    58 mins
  • Why a Gay Atheist Still Believes Christianity Matters – with Jonathan Rauch
    Jun 18 2025

    We sat down with Jonathan Rauch - a gay, Jewish atheist - to explore his remarkable journey from accepting his sexuality and rejecting religion to becoming a key voice advocating for same-sex marriage and the vital role of Christianity in sustaining liberal, secular democracy.


    Key topics include:

    - Jonathan's personal wrestle with his sexuality and eventual acceptance

    - His commitment to gay and lesbian equality and the social conservative case for same-sex marriage

    - The negative effects of secularisation

    - The importance of Christian values in supporting liberal democracy and the need for a Christian revival


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    ✍️ Follow Jonathan Rauch: https://x.com/jon_rauch?lang=en


    Chapters:

    00:00 Intro

    00:57 What is Sacred to you? Jonathan Rauch answers

    02:48 Childhood Influences and Jewish Identity

    05:58 Feeling on the outside

    06:58 Trying to be religious

    08:47 The Fight for Free Speech and Liberalism

    11:52 The Journey to Same-Sex Marriage Advocacy

    15:06 Navigating Personal and Public Identity

    17:57 Understanding Anger and Tolerance in Debate

    19:44 Denial and Acceptance of Same-Sex Attraction

    34:28 Advocating for Christianity as an Atheist

    36:14 The Consequences of Secularisation

    38:19 The Role of Christianity in Democracy

    40:42 Core Teachings of Christianity and Liberalism

    47:21 The Need for Christianity in Secular Society

    51:13 The Search for Transcendence

    54:34 Messages for Secular Liberals and Christians


    Keywords:

    Jonathan Rauch, Liberal democracy, Christianity and politics, Gay rights, Same-sex marriage, Religious freedom, Secular society, American democracy, Political philosophy, Free speech, LGBTQ+ rights, Jewish identity, Atheism, Religious values, Social change, Political discourse, Minority rights, Cultural transformation, Civic engagement, Religious tolerance, Political liberalism, Social conservatism, Identity politics, Democratic values, Religious revival, Intellectual history, Cultural dialogue, Personal identity, Political belief, Social justice, Religious pluralism, American creed, Constitutional values, Community building, Interfaith dialogue, Political moderation, Cultural understanding, Religious institutions, Social cohesion, Intellectual freedom, Political compromise, Religious skepticism, Cultural diversity, Democratic principles, Social transformation, Religious critique, Political philosophy, Civic virtues, Cultural evolution, Intellectual honesty

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    1 hr and 8 mins
  • Caitlin Moran on the Masculinity Crisis, Raising Boys & the Manosphere
    Jun 4 2025

    Bestselling author Caitlin Moran made waves with her 2011 feminist classic How to Be a Woman.

    Now, she’s calling for an urgent conversation about the crisis of modern masculinity.In this special live episode of The Sacred, Elizabeth Oldfield and Daniel Turner sit down with Caitlin for a hilarious, moving, and deeply honest conversation that challenges what we think we know about men, women, gender roles, and society today.


    Together, they explore:

    ✖️ The masculinity crisis and the rise of the manosphere

    📖 The cultural impact of 'How to Be a Woman'

    😡 The intense backlash Caitlin received for writing about boys and men

    ♂️ Why men struggle with health, identity, and emotional development

    🔄 The differences in how society handles midlife crises in men vs women🧠 How we can move beyond stereotypes toward a healthier, more compassionate vision of masculinity


    🎥 Recorded at our Sacred Live event


    Chapters

    00:00 Exploring Gender: The Unasked Questions

    01:54 The Sacred Values: Making People Feel Better

    04:53 Childhood Influences: A Unique Upbringing

    09:51 The Journey of a Writer: From Music Journalism to Feminism

    18:00 The Impact of 'How to Be a Woman' and Public Perception

    27:01 The Responsibility of Influence: Navigating Public Opinion

    28:49 The Art of Persuasion in Writing

    30:42 Hospitality in Communication

    31:36 The Importance of Awareness

    33:13 Navigating Tone and Authenticity

    34:54 The Journey to the Times

    36:49 Exploring Feminism and Masculinity

    37:47 Cultural Shifts in Gender Perception

    39:41 Addressing the Crisis of Masculinity

    41:31 Feminism's Role in Men's Issues43:16 The Backlash Against Men's Conversations

    45:18 The Lack of Resources for Men

    47:09 Expanding the Conversation

    49:21 Finding Purpose in Modern Society

    50:55 The Quest for Meaning

    52:45 Cinematic Narratives for Boys and Heroic Archetypes

    56:51 The Stiff Upper Lip Mentality

    58:34 The Importance of VulnerabilityAudience Q+A

    01:02:35 Are there unique differences between men and women?

    01:07:21 The Interior Lives of Men

    01:10:58 Why are kids terrified of their interior lives?

    01:16:41 What is the role of men in modern society?

    01:23:11 Navigating anxiety and self care

    01:28:40 Elizabeth Oldfield's reflection


    Keywords:

    Why are teenage boys struggling today? What does it mean to be a man in 2025? Is masculinity in crisis, or just changing? What happened to male role models — and why are so many young men turning to figures like Andrew Tate or Jordan Peterson for guidance? How is red pill culture shaping boys' self-image? What does feminism have to say about men, and how can we raise emotionally intelligent boys in a world full of conflicting messages? Are boys being left behind in conversations about gender? What do they need that they’re not getting — from parents, schools, or culture? How is social media — especially TikTok — influencing masculinity, and what impact is it having on mental health? Why do boys struggle to express their emotions, and how can we help them develop emotional resilience? Should we parent boys differently than girls? And what can we learn from shows like Adolescence on Netflix about what it really means to grow up as a boy today?

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    1 hr and 41 mins