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The Ponderverse

The Ponderverse

By: Justin Wright Kevin Clayson
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Summary
The Ponderverse is a podcast about discovering the universe hidden inside a single verse of scripture. Each week, Kevin Clayson and Justin Wright sit down with one verse and follow wherever the conversation leads. Sometimes that takes them into faith, family, marriage, parenting, business, doubt, Church history, or questions they may not be able to fully answer. This is not a scripture lecture, a debate, or another attempt to explain exactly what a verse is supposed to mean. It is an honest conversation between two friends who are trying to notice more, ask better questions, and understand God a little better than they did yesterday. There are no experts here. No perfect answers. Just curiosity, friendship, faith, and a willingness to ponder. Pull up a chair and join the conversation. Two dudes pondering the universe, one verse at a time.2026 Hill and Table, LLC Christianity Parenting & Families Philosophy Relationships Social Sciences Spirituality
Episodes
  • Episode 10 - (Part 2) - Moroni 7:13 - Is Letting Other Help Us an Act of Faith?
    Nov 3 2026
    What does it really mean to do good? And could one of the most Christlike things we do be something as simple as accepting help? In Part 2 of our exploration of Moroni 7, Kevin and Justin turn from the darkness described in verse 12 to the beautiful promise of verse 13: everything that invites us to do good, love God, and serve Him is inspired of God. What begins as a conversation about the overwhelming love of Heavenly Father turns into a personal exploration of service, humility, gratitude, and the surprising difficulty of letting others serve us. Along the way, Kevin shares a touching memory of a remarkable friend whose example changed the way he understands Christlike love. One verse. Two dudes. And a reminder that sometimes drawing closer to God means learning not only how to give, but also how to receive. — Pull up a chair and join us each week as we explore the universe hidden inside a single verse of scripture. Visit ponderversepodcast.com to learn more about the show, explore past episodes, and continue the conversation. The Ponderverse Two dudes pondering the universe, one verse at a time. The Ponderverse is hosted by Kevin Clayson and Justin Wright. This podcast is independently produced and is not an official publication of or affiliated with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
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    35 mins
  • Episode 9 - (Part 1) - Moroni 7:12 - What Separates Us From God?
    Oct 27 2026
    What actually makes something good—or evil? In Moroni 7:12, we’re told that everything good comes from God, while evil comes from the devil, who “fighteth against him continually.” But what does that look like in ordinary life? Kevin and Justin start with some surprisingly everyday questions about family, Sabbath observance, Halloween movies, football, and the gray areas where “good” and “evil” don’t always feel as obvious as we might expect. Then the conversation turns. What if evil can be understood, at least in part, as anything that separates us from God? And what if one of Satan’s most effective tools isn’t simply creating contention between people—but creating contention inside of us? That question leads to a conversation about politics, family, sin, shame, internal conflict, justification, and the way division inside ourselves can eventually spill into our relationships with everyone around us. No definitive answers. Just two dudes trying to understand one verse a little better. — Pull up a chair and join us each week as we explore the universe hidden inside a single verse of scripture. Visit ponderversepodcast.com to learn more about the show, explore past episodes, and continue the conversation. The Ponderverse Two dudes pondering the universe, one verse at a time. The Ponderverse is hosted by Kevin Clayson and Justin Wright. This podcast is independently produced and is not an official publication of or affiliated with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
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    37 mins
  • Episode 8 - Moroni 7:22 - Are Angels Closer Than We Think?
    Oct 20 2026

    Scripture: Moroni 7:22

    In this episode:

    • 05:09 — God knows all things. Why that truth can be both comforting and frustrating when we don't know what comes next.
    • 07:35 — Trusting God through uncertainty. Kevin shares his experience navigating a potentially life-changing career decision.
    • 11:57 — Acting on spiritual impressions. Justin and Kevin discuss ideas, inspiration, stewardship, and the cost of waiting to act.
    • 15:28 — From everlasting to everlasting. What eternity might mean from our limited mortal perspective.
    • 17:00 — Who are the ministering angels? Exploring the possibility of heavenly help and ordinary people becoming instruments in God's hands.
    • 19:38 — God orchestrating angels. A personal moment about how friendship can become a form of divine ministering.
    • 24:22 — Making ministering simpler. Kevin opens up about struggling with the expectations and practical realities of ministering.
    • 29:00 — What Justin changed about ministering. How small, thoughtful acts of kindness transformed his approach.
    • 33:37 — A realization in real time. Kevin discovers something he can do immediately for the families he ministers to.
    • 39:06 — You're not alone. A conversation about one of the simplest and most meaningful gifts we can give another person.

    A question to ponder:

    What if our responsibility as ministers isn't to do something impressive, but simply to help someone experience a little more of the goodness of Christ?

    And who in our lives might need to know today that they're not alone?

    Join the conversation.

    We'd love to hear your thoughts, questions, or favorite scriptures. Leave us a comment, share a verse you'd like us to explore, and join us every Tuesday for another conversation.

    The Ponderverse — Two Dudes Pondering the Universe, One Verse at a Time.

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    Pull up a chair and join us each week as we explore the universe hidden inside a single verse of scripture.

    Visit ponderversepodcast.com to learn more about the show, explore past episodes, and continue the conversation.

    The Ponderverse
    Two dudes pondering the universe, one verse at a time.

    The Ponderverse is hosted by Kevin Clayson and Justin Wright. This podcast is independently produced and is not an official publication of or affiliated with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

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    43 mins
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