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The Pod of Gold

The Pod of Gold

By: ABC Refinery
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Hosts Nick Frappell and Shae Russell interview members of the ABC Refinery team and industry professionals to better understand today’s investing landscape for precious metals. ABC Refinery is Australasia’s pre-eminent independent precious metal assayer, refiner and mint. ABC Refinery is the refining division of Pallion, Australasia’s largest independent precious metal services group of companies.ABC Refinery Economics Personal Finance
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  • Gold Breaks $4,000: What’s Driving the Rally and What Comes Next
    Oct 8 2025

    In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nicholas Frappell, Global Head of Institutional Markets at ABC Refinery, unpacks gold’s explosive surge through US $4,000/oz — a milestone that’s reshaping market sentiment and investor positioning around the world.

    Recorded on Wednesday, 8 October 2025, this special short-form episode explores the macro and technical forces behind gold’s breakout and what traders should watch for next.

    📈 Frappell also examines:

    • Why the US$4,000 mark is a psychological and technical milestone for gold investors
    • The macro drivers behind the rally — from fiscal dominance and rising debt pressures to shifting Fed policy
    • The impact of the US government shutdown on positioning data and market sentimentWhat to expect when Chinese markets reopen after the holidays
    • Point & Figure targets pointing toward near-term resistance at US$4,073–4,172
    • Ichimoku Cloud analysis and distant support levels near US$3,671 and US$3,576
    • How round-number psychology and short-term volatility could shape the next phase of gold’s run

    🕒 Timestamps:

    • (00:00) – Introduction
    • (00:33) – Gold marches through US$4,000
    • (01:22) – The macro backdrop
    • (03:38) – Positioning & ETF inflows amid the US government shutdown
    • (05:38) – Technical outlook: Short-term risks and what to watch as China reopens
    • (06:42) – Point & Figure analysis
    • (07:32) – Ichimoku Cloud weekly big picture
    • (08:27) – Summary and what’s ahead at IMARC 2025


    🔗 More Resources:

    • Visit: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast
    • Follow Nick Frappell: https://twitter.com/nick_frappell
    • Follow Shae Russell: https://twitter.com/shaearussell
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    10 mins
  • “Don’t Fight This Rally” – Gold Hits New Highs as the US Dollar Falters
    Sep 25 2025

    In this episode, Nicholas Frappell, Global Head of Institutional Markets at ABC Refinery explains why Gold has surged to a historic US $3,759, and the momentum shows no sign of slowing.

    📆 Recorded on Tuesday 23rd September 2025, this episode explores:

    • Why weakness in the US dollar and shifting Federal Reserve policy are fuelling the rally

    • Key price targets—including short-term resistance around US $3,800 and medium-term potential near US $4,000

    • The surge in ETF inflows and investor rotation out of equities

    • Geopolitical flashpoints and economic signals from China that could keep gold in demand

    📈 Frappell also examines:

    • Dollar Index (DXY) weakness and what past declines suggest for a possible rebound.

    • September’s 25-bp cut and why the market’s hopes for deeper, faster easing may be misplaced.

    • Inflation break-even rates and why the Fed’s own projections challenge the “rapid cuts” narrative.

    • Rotation out of US equities and into gold as a hedge.

    • Technical targets: short-term and medium-term

    • Key support zones

    • Escalating tensions—Russian jets, uncertain US leadership—and their impact on safe-haven demand.

    • China’s slowing fixed-asset investment and soft consumption shaping global trade flows.

    🕒 Timestamps:

    • (00:00) – Introduction

    • (00:55) – Moves behind the gold rally

    • (04:55) – Managed money positioning

    • (08:38) – Gold price targets

    • (11:20) – Is the US dollar losing its grip?

    • (13:07) – Geopolitics & macro drivers

    • (14:08) – Key takeaways


    🔗 More Resources:

    • Visit: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast

    • Follow Nick Frappell: https://twitter.com/nick_frappell

    • Follow Shae Russell: https://twitter.com/shaearussell

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    17 mins
  • Gold’s Relentless Run: Targets, ETFs, and the Fed
    Sep 10 2025

    In this episode of The Pod of Gold, Nicholas Frappell, Global Head of Institutional Markets at ABC Refinery, unpacks gold’s historic rally and what could lie ahead.

    📆 Recorded on Tuesday 9th September 2025, this episode explores:

    • The drivers pushing gold to fresh record highs.

    • The role of weak US labour data and Fed policy expectations.

    • Why ETF and Managed Money positioning matter right now.

    • The potential scenarios that could actually stop this rally.

    • Price targets including the much-discussed 3860 level.

    • How the US dollar is influencing precious metals markets.

    Whether you’re a trader, investor, or simply fascinated by gold, this episode provides deep insights into positioning, sentiment, and what the next 14 days may bring.

    📈 Frappell also examines:

    • US labour market weakness and Fed rate cut expectations.

    • ETF inflows vs Managed Money longs.

    • Central bank gold buying and its impact on demand.

    • Scenarios that could trigger a gold pullback.

    • Near- and medium-term price targets.

    • The broader macro backdrop: dollar, tariffs, and risk assets.

    🕒 Timestamps:

    • (00:00) – Introduction

    • (00:44) – What’s driving gold higher right now

    • (04:12) – Question from listener: “Could anything stop this rally?”

    • (08:19) – ETF flows vs Managed Money positioning

    • (10:16) – Price targets: short-term, medium-term, and $3860

    • (11:34) – Medium-term price target explained

    • (12:22) – The role of the US dollar and Fed policy

    • (15:15) – Key takeaways and closing thoughts

    • (17:00) – Outro


    🔗 More Resources:

    • Visit: https://www.abcrefinery.com/podcast

    • Follow Nick Frappell: https://twitter.com/nick_frappell

    • Follow Shae Russell: https://twitter.com/shaearussell

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