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The Moneyball Real Estate Show

The Moneyball Real Estate Show

By: Kevin Clayson Steve Earl
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This is where real estate meets real results. Each week, Kevin Clayson and Steve Earl, founders of DFY Real Estate, reveal how everyday Americans are quietly building retirement wealth by playing real-life Moneyball with real estate. This isn’t some “swing for the fences” gamble—this is a conservative, proven approach built on hitting real estate singles over and over again. Learn more and get your free Real Estate Game Plan at https://dfy-realestate.com2020 - 2026 Done For You Real Estate Economics Personal Development Personal Finance Personal Success Politics & Government
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  • POWERFUL: Investor-Specific Financing Options
    Jan 27 2026

    Why they call it “Investor-Specific Financing”

    • DSCR is the official name, but the framing matters.
    • Conventional loans are still great (30-year fixed, strong rates) but:
    • More hoops
    • More documentation
    • More friction
    • Harder for business owners / complex income situations

    What a DSCR loan is (and how it works)

    • Debt Service Coverage Ratio underwriting focuses on the property’s ability to cover its own debt.
    • Core concept:
    • If rent covers (or nearly covers) the payment, it can qualify.
    • Kevin gives a simple example:
    • Rent $2,000 vs payment $1,800 → qualifies
    • Even near 1:1 can qualify depending on lender guidelines.

    Why this is a big win for business owners (and “interesting financials”)

    • Many clients have complicated tax returns and multiple income streams.
    • Conventional underwriting can feel burdensome—even demeaning—because of how intensely it scrutinizes personal finances.
    • DSCR simplifies the borrower experience because it’s not about W-2 income and DTI.

    LLC ownership + personal guarantee (the “clean structure” part)

    • A major feature: buy in the name of an LLC (no post-close quitclaim dance).
    • Still typically personally guaranteed.
    • Kevin’s line worth clipping:
    • “You’re the personal guarantor, but a personal guarantee doesn’t mean personal liability is unlimited.”

    Avoiding the conventional 10-loan limit

    • Conventional financing has the well-known 10-financed-property ceiling (often managed by splitting between spouses).
    • DSCR loans:
    • Don’t take one of those “10 slots”
    • Can allow investors to scale further (20–30 properties possible, with increasing qualification standards as portfolios grow)

    Rates, fees, and prepayment penalties (January 2026 reality)

    • Historically DSCR carried higher rates/fees.
    • But in the current market (January 2026), they note:
    • DSCR rates can be similar to conventional
    • Common caveat:
    • DSCR loans often have a prepayment penalty
    • Not a big deal for long-term holders (they’re not planning to exit in 2 years).

    Will it show up on personal credit?

    • Steve explains:
    • With some lenders, yes; with others, no.
    • Strategic Lending knows how to route borrowers based on that preference.
    • On default and credit impact:
    • Steve’s understanding: typically it would not report like a standard personal mortgage—because the loan is made to the LLC secured by the property—though consequences still exist.

    What you need to qualify (simple but not “wild west”)

    • Kevin emphasizes: this is not 2006-style “stated income” chaos.
    • Typical DSCR pre-approval items discussed:
    • Credit application + credit pull
    • Proof of assets / bank statements
    • Existing mortgage statements for financed properties
    • Reserves: at least 6 months PITI beyond purchase/closing funds

    The “new era” Moneyball stance: more conservative by design

    • Their direction going forward:
    • Push toward 30% down DSCR strategy more often
    • Aim for a better ownership experience (less outside cash needed for property “messiness”)
    • Key philosophical point:
    • This isn’t about maximizing leverage; it’s about maximizing staying power.
    • Closing CTA
    • Kevin invites listeners to reach out with questions and book a call:
    • dfy-realestate.com (Book Call button)
    • kevin@dfy-realestate.com

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    Ready to Build Your Game Plan?

    Book a call with Kevin and see what your personalized real estate roadmap could look like.
    👉 dfy-realestate.com

    Connect With Us:

    Email Kevin directly: kevin@dfy-realestate.com

    Learn more about DFY’s done-for-you investing approach at dfy-realestate.com

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    35 mins
  • RESET: The Great Housing Reset of 2026
    Jan 20 2026
    • Why Episode 138 marks the return to live podcast conversations in 2026
    • Revisiting Micro-Wins to Millions with fresh investor perspective
    • Redfin’s “Great Housing Reset” and what it really means (no hype)
    • Mortgage rates dipping into the low 6% range—and why psychology matters more than math
    • The hidden cost of sitting on the sidelines during high-rate years
    • DFY transaction volume from 2022–2025 and what the slowdown signals
    • How investor action during uncertainty led to appreciation, cash flow, and refi opportunities
    • Why affordability is improving without a major price drop
    • Pent-up housing demand and the herd mentality effect
    • Why rents declined—and why they’re poised to rise again
    • Political pressure around affordability and why it benefits long-term owners
    • The pendulum theory: fear, greed, and slow-moving real estate cycles
    • Why early 2026 may be one of the best entry points before momentum builds
    • How to access Micro-Wins to Millions (audio, digital, and video book)
    • Where to find DFY’s 12 years of transparent transaction reports
    • Why now is the time to review your game plan—not wait for headlines

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    Ready to Build Your Game Plan?

    Book a call with Kevin and see what your personalized real estate roadmap could look like.
    👉 dfy-realestate.com

    Connect With Us:

    Email Kevin directly: kevin@dfy-realestate.com

    Learn more about DFY’s done-for-you investing approach at dfy-realestate.com

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    43 mins
  • POWER: The Power of One - Ch. 12
    Jan 13 2026

    Core theme: The power of one choice can reverberate through generations.

    1) Making Ripples

    • 4 a.m., early flight, tired and irritable.
    • Kevin judges a woman based on her appearance.
    • She quietly pays for his items anyway.
    • Lesson: small kindness can create massive impact.
    • The ripple effect multiplies every time the story is shared.

    2) Who are your heroes?

    • We default to celebrities… but they rarely change our personal lives.
    • Real heroes are often people close to us:
    • parents, mentors, teachers, neighbors, friends
    • Eight-year-old girl calls her dad her hero:
    • he picked her up, cleaned her scraped knee, cared for her
    • Big idea: heroism is usually ordinary faithfulness.

    3) Principle-based Capitalism

    • A defense of capitalism rooted in:
    • honesty, integrity, hard work, frugality, giving back
    • Critique: “profit first no matter what” is a distortion of true capitalism.
    • DFY grew faster when the focus shifted:
    • from tracking numbers → to tracking people’s progress
    • from transactions → to leaving people better off
    • Principle-driven companies outlast founders; profit-only organizations crumble.

    4) The Power of One Property

    • One rental purchase impacts many:
    • mortgage team, agents, title, property manager, tenant, seller, you
    • And you can benefit most over time through:
    • cash flow, appreciation, tax benefits, principal paydown
    • Compounding concept:
    • one can lead to two, two can lead to four, etc.

    5) Proof Through Repetition

    • Eric buys first property: January 2012
    • Adds multiple properties that same year
    • By 2019: nine properties
    • Outcome: retired, traveling, living life on his terms while DFY handled the heavy lifting

    6) Micro-Win Challenge to End The Book

    • Don’t overcomplicate the first step:
    • 10-minute workout
    • 5 minutes with your kids
    • write one sentence
    • drink one extra glass of water
    • say a 30-second prayer
    • gather loose change and deposit it
    • Final reminder: you are one decision away.

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    Ready to Build Your Game Plan?

    Book a call with Kevin and see what your personalized real estate roadmap could look like.
    👉 dfy-realestate.com

    Connect With Us:

    Email Kevin directly: kevin@dfy-realestate.com

    Learn more about DFY’s done-for-you investing approach at dfy-realestate.com

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    25 mins
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