What happens when seasoned leaders and rising voices sit down as peers, not just to teach but learn from each other? In this special “living room” edition of The Missional Leader, Rob is joined by two trailblazing friends and young leaders: Charlee Tchividjian, a passionate founder radically reshaping foster care prevention, and André Ito Gonçalves, a former Netflix executive turned global church planter and marketing leader. Together with these young leaders, Rob reflects on his experience in launching the podcast and how he values continuous learning from emerging nextgen voices.

Charlee shares her journey from a difficult, faith-shaping upbringing to founding EMA.org, a flourishing nonprofit helping thousands of at-risk moms stay with their children, reflecting on how pain, risk, and Spirit-led conviction formed her leadership. Andre unpacks “polycentric leadership” with Rob, a fluid multi-vocational approach to calling, and how mentorship across ages can unlock personal purpose and Kingdom impact. Rob reflects on the “ikigai” framework, and how leaders can discern their unique calling at the intersection of passion, skill, need, and sustainability in a rapidly-changing world.

Whether you’re mentoring or being mentored, building something new or stewarding something established, this episode offers practical insight and honest encouragement for leaders who believe the future is built together - across generations.

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Ikigai Framework: What Do I Do With My Life?
Polycentric Leadership
Gen Alpha Research: A Worldwide Look at the Most Connected & Curious Generation
EMA (Every Mother’s Advocate)
— Ministry founded by Charlee Tchividjian to support mothers at risk of losing custody.
Dunamis Movement / Zion Church | Dunamis Movement
— Brazilian-based movement and church led by Teo Hayashi.
The Send
— Global missions movement referenced in context of Brazilian stadium events.

CHAPTERS:
00:00 7 Months, 1.2 Million Downloads: A Surprising Milestone
02:17 Charlee’s Wild-Child Story and Africa Turning Point
05:00 Every Mother’s Advocate: Preventing Foster Care Crisis
07:43 From Netflix to Ministry: André’s Polycentric Leadership Journey
12:45 Building a Global, Intergenerational Podcast Community
15:13 Behind the Mic: Audience Stories of Transformation
18:02 Deep Dives vs. Longform: The Show’s Conversation Format
20:51 Authenticity & Completion Rates: Podcast’s Unusual Success
24:49 Most Impactful Episodes: Founder Stories and Legacy
27:16 Bob’s Faith and the Power of Fresh Anointing
29:35 Risk, Innovation, and Failures: Lessons from YouVersion
33:04 Real-Time Application: Leadership Through Failure
34:42 Dunamis Movement & The Send: Mobilizing Missions at Scale
37:41 Discipleship Deep Dive: Filling the Global Leadership Vacuum
39:32 The Ikigai Model: Finding Purpose in Calling
46:49 Serving to Find Vision: Breaking the Calling Paralysis
47:54 The Real Meaning of Ministry: Beyond the Pulpit
51:42 Calling and Purpose: Not Just for the “Elite”
53:34 Avoiding Comparison: Courage for Individual Vocations
56:25 Closing: Join the Community & What’s Next for Season 2

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Is AI a powerful tool for the Kingdom—or a ticking time bomb in the hands of the church? In this episode, Rob sits down with returning guest Bobby Gruenewald, founder and CEO of YouVersion, to tackle the hard questions surrounding generative AI at the intersection of faith and technology.

With over half of OneHope’s global reach now digital, and the rapid rise of generative AI making headlines worldwide, Rob and Bobby pull back the curtain on their own wrestling with the promises and pitfalls of this revolutionary technology. From initial enthusiasm to ethical hesitation, Bobby candidly shares how he’s navigating both hope and real-world concerns as he stewards the world’s most popular Bible app—and why this moment may be more transformational (or dangerous) than many imagine.

Discover why Bobby believes the hype around AI is rarely as simple as utopia or dystopia, and why it’s vital for Christian leaders to cut through the noise with discernment and wisdom. You’ll hear unfiltered stories from the front lines: the unexpected hazards uncovered when testing AI “Bible bots,” the non-negotiables for theological accuracy and safety, and why technology’s “messy middle” demands humility, not fear.

If you care about digital evangelism, ministry innovation, and the future of the church in an AI-driven world, this episode will equip you with questions, cautions, and conviction for the road ahead.

Subscribe for more conversations like this—where truth, technology, and mission meet.

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YouVersion Bible App
— Bible app founded by Bobby Gruenewald; frequently referenced as “the Bible app”
https://www.youversion.com/the-bible-app/

Gloo
— Mentioned as a ministry/tech partner and for an AI study on Bible accuracy
https://gloo.com/

CHAPTERS:
00:00 Utopian vs. Dystopian Tech Narratives
01:06 Generative AI: Hype, Concerns, and Kingdom Use
03:10 Early Adoption and Digital Evangelism Realities
05:05 Why YouVersion Held Off on AI Chatbots
08:56 Shocking Flaws in Christian AI Tools
12:56 AI Prompt Test: 14-Year-Old Scenario
14:46 The Real Harm of Unsafe AI in Ministry
18:02 Scripture Accuracy: 85% Isn’t Good Enough
19:54 Three Harnesses: Safety, Accuracy, Theology
22:31 Embracing Reality and Promise of Tech
23:09 Unique Risks: AI Sounds Human, Gets Facts Wrong

What does it take to communicate the gospel with both grit and grace - across cultures, controversies, and generations? In this episode, Rob sits down with Christine Caine - international speaker, founder of A21, and Propel Women, and a relentless advocate for living on mission.

Known for her dynamic presence and prophetic teaching, Christine offers an unfiltered look into how she prepares to speak life, truth, and hope to audiences as diverse as global stadiums, small groups, and churches with widely varying theological traditions. Discover how she crafts every message with radical intentionality, starting with prayerful discernment and deep contextual understanding of audiences.

Key highlights from this conversation:

• Christine Caine reveals why she never steps on stage without first seeking a fresh word from God—not just a well-rehearsed sermon, but a Spirit-led assignment for that audience in that season.
• Learn her method of tailoring messages for every context, from large-scale evangelism to delicate theological environments, all while staying faithful to the core of the gospel.
• Listen in as she shares how she keeps the “back row” in mind above all, focusing on activating everyday people—not impressing front-row critics or gatekeepers.

If you want to level up how you communicate truth without compromising conviction—or just want a behind-the-scenes look at one of the church’s most faithful voices—this episode is for you.

Subscribe now for more empowering conversations like this on The Missional Leader.

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Propel Women: https://www.propelwomen.org

A21 Campaign: https://www.a21.org/

TIMESTAMPS:

CHAPTERS:
00:00 Sent on Assignment: Beyond Just a Nice Message
02:23 Adapting Messages for Diverse Church Contexts
05:04 Balancing Theology and Storytelling Across Audiences
08:18 Navigating Gender Bias in Public Ministry
10:09 Joyce Meyer’s Advice: Focus on Serving, Not Impressing
12:10 Prioritizing the Audience’s Needs in Message Preparation
14:14 Sourcing Inspiration: Devotionals, Journals, and Timely Insights
16:11 Digital Note-Taking: Organizing Ideas for Preaching
18:29 Avoiding Trendy Topics for Evergreen Relevance
20:00 Handwritten Craft: Building a Message from Introduction to Conclusion
22:44 The Intertwining of Devotional Life and Sermon Prep
23:21 Preaching to the Back Row: Advice to Last a Lifetime
25:00 Speaking to Monday, Not Just Sunday: Practical Applications
27:29 Spirit-Led Flexibility: Changing Messages in the Moment