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The Ground Game

The Ground Game

By: Bryan Lovell & Mark Milam
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Summary

The Ground Game is a mortgage industry podcast for loan originators, operators, leaders, and business owners focused on practical strategies for building stronger, more sustainable businesses. Through candid conversations and real-world experience, the show tackles the challenges shaping housing, lending, leadership, and the future of the mortgage industry.

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Episodes
  • Surviving Mortgage Winter: Part 2
    Nov 12 2026

    Waiting for the phone to ring is the most expensive strategy in mortgage sales, especially when volume is down and deals take longer to convert. We dig into a simple fix: stop obsessing over the next lock and start building motion you can control. Think fewer grand plans and more daily connection, like calling five people and having real conversations that strengthen past client relationships and referral partner trust.

    We also get tactical on how mortgage professionals can use AI, CRM data, and production history to create a clear outreach plan. If you’ve ever wondered who to call first, which pre-approvals are going stale, or which real estate agents you used to close with but haven’t heard from in 18 months, we lay out a practical way to surface those lists fast. But we also name the danger: AI can create a “busy” illusion that feels productive while you do zero business development. The goal is simple, focused use cases that push you back into conversations.

    Then we zoom out to the lender operator reality when margins tighten: protect your salespeople from getting picked off, check in on mindset, run a top-to-bottom expense audit, and find the leaks before headcount becomes the only option. We wrap with a mindset reset on time, Parkinson’s law, and what could happen if affordability improves and demand comes back quickly.

    If you got value from this, subscribe, share it with a loan officer or lender leader who needs momentum, and leave a review. What’s one action you’re taking today to get back in motion?

    The Ground Game is independently produced and is not an official publication of Highland Mortgage. The views and opinions expressed are those of the individual speakers and do not necessarily represent those of BoxCar Mortgage, LLC or Highland Mortgage.

    This podcast is provided for general informational and educational purposes only. It is not intended to constitute financial, legal, tax, or lending advice and should not be relied upon as a commitment to lend, an offer of credit, or a guarantee of loan approval or loan terms. Mortgage programs, guidelines, interest rates, terms, and availability are subject to change without notice. All loans are subject to borrower qualification, credit approval, income and asset verification, property evaluation, and applicable underwriting requirements. Listeners should consult qualified professionals regarding their individual circumstances.

    Mark Milam, CEO/Mortgage Banker | NMLS# 35163
    Bryan Lovell, VP of Sales/Mortgage Banker | NMLS# 321330

    BoxCar Mortgage, LLC dba Highland Mortgage | NMLS# 1969375
    Equal Housing Lender | nmlsconsumeraccess.org

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    13 mins
  • Surviving Mortgage Winter: Part 1
    Nov 5 2026

    Rates jump, headlines scream, and buyers suddenly act like homeownership is optional. We sit down and get brutally practical about what mortgage professionals do when the MBA outlook says purchase activity may dip and mortgage rates could hang in the sevens for years. The market feels slower, yet we’re still taking calls and still writing pre-approvals, which means demand is not gone. The problem is conversion, confidence, and how fast the ground moved under people’s feet.

    We dig into the “demand bubble” and why quick rate moves trigger a hot-stove reaction even when life keeps pushing people toward buying. Then we shift from theory to tactics: smarter mortgage insurance conversations (including single premium MI), using seller concessions to reduce cash-to-close or monthly payment, and when a temporary buydown is a legitimate budgeting bridge rather than a gimmick. We also talk through escrow decisions, how to frame affordability without getting trapped in rate obsession, and why “we’ll refi you later” is not a business plan.

    From there, we zoom out to survival and growth: keeping 12 months of living expenses liquid, humbling yourself enough to learn new product lanes (FHA, non-QM, DSCR, niche properties), and deciding whether your message is just reporting the temperature or actually changing it. If you’re a loan originator, lender, or real estate partner trying to stay sharp in a high-rate mortgage market, this one is built for the fight. Subscribe, share this with a teammate, and leave a review with your biggest challenge right now.

    The Ground Game is independently produced and is not an official publication of Highland Mortgage. The views and opinions expressed are those of the individual speakers and do not necessarily represent those of BoxCar Mortgage, LLC or Highland Mortgage.

    This podcast is provided for general informational and educational purposes only. It is not intended to constitute financial, legal, tax, or lending advice and should not be relied upon as a commitment to lend, an offer of credit, or a guarantee of loan approval or loan terms. Mortgage programs, guidelines, interest rates, terms, and availability are subject to change without notice. All loans are subject to borrower qualification, credit approval, income and asset verification, property evaluation, and applicable underwriting requirements. Listeners should consult qualified professionals regarding their individual circumstances.

    Mark Milam, CEO/Mortgage Banker | NMLS# 35163
    Bryan Lovell, VP of Sales/Mortgage Banker | NMLS# 321330

    BoxCar Mortgage, LLC dba Highland Mortgage | NMLS# 1969375
    Equal Housing Lender | nmlsconsumeraccess.org

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    19 mins
  • Stop Getting Rate Shopped
    Oct 29 2026

    Borrowers can shop rates in minutes, so why are some loan officers still winning without racing to the bottom? We get real about the commoditization of the mortgage loan officer and lender, and we call out the three forces driving it: the standardized Loan Estimate and industry “shop to save” messaging, technology that flattens everything into numbers, and the most overlooked culprit, our own habits.

    We unpack what happens when we train clients to treat us like a quote machine, especially when high producers start matching every competitor and cutting comp “just to win.” Then we shift to what actually works in the field: speed-to-lead, clear options for a video chat, and why leading with an online application link can make you indistinguishable from every other URL. The goal is simple: create real connection early so trust shows up before the rate conversation even begins.

    From there, we get tactical on quoting and conversion. We talk about asking the underused question, “What part of this process gives you the most anxiety?” and using that answer to tailor scenarios, explain points, time horizons, and the real trade-offs borrowers care about. We also connect the dots to today’s higher rate environment, uncertain forecasts, and why tough markets can be the fastest path to becoming a better originator if you lean into follow-up and craft.

    If you found this helpful, subscribe so you don’t miss what’s next, share it with a mortgage pro who keeps getting shopped, and leave a review to help more LOs find the show.

    The Ground Game is independently produced and is not an official publication of Highland Mortgage. The views and opinions expressed are those of the individual speakers and do not necessarily represent those of BoxCar Mortgage, LLC or Highland Mortgage.

    This podcast is provided for general informational and educational purposes only. It is not intended to constitute financial, legal, tax, or lending advice and should not be relied upon as a commitment to lend, an offer of credit, or a guarantee of loan approval or loan terms. Mortgage programs, guidelines, interest rates, terms, and availability are subject to change without notice. All loans are subject to borrower qualification, credit approval, income and asset verification, property evaluation, and applicable underwriting requirements. Listeners should consult qualified professionals regarding their individual circumstances.

    Mark Milam, CEO/Mortgage Banker | NMLS# 35163
    Bryan Lovell, VP of Sales/Mortgage Banker | NMLS# 321330

    BoxCar Mortgage, LLC dba Highland Mortgage | NMLS# 1969375
    Equal Housing Lender | nmlsconsumeraccess.org

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    25 mins
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