• The Cyber Security Recruiter talks to Christian Scott, Chief Executive Officer, Tantalum Labs
    Jul 14 2025

    The Evolving Landscape of Cybersecurity Recruitment and AI Integration

    In this episode of the Cybersecurity Recruiter Podcast, Tom speaks with Christian Scott about the rapidly changing landscape of cybersecurity recruitment and the impact of AI. They discuss the evolution of pen testing, the implications of generative AI, and the increasing use of AI tools in cybersecurity.

    Christian shares his insights on the future of AI in cybersecurity, the rise of agentic frameworks, and the potential for increased black hat hacker behavior due to market changes. They also explore the importance of maintaining human elements in a heavily automated industry and provide practical advice for business owners and recruiters navigating these innovations.

    00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

    00:54 Reflecting on Past Episodes

    01:17 Changes in Pen Testing and AI

    02:17 Generative AI in Cybersecurity

    02:50 Future of Pen Testing and AI Tools

    04:42 Human Element in Rapid Tech Evolution

    15:04 AI's Impact on Cybersecurity Recruitment

    18:21 Job Market Dynamics and AI

    22:44 AI Model Collapse and Future Considerations

    26:02 Navigating AI Challenges and Limitations

    27:58 The Human Element in Technology

    28:38 Generative AI and Authenticity

    31:42 AI in Recruitment and Personal Connection

    33:35 Detecting AI Use in Interviews

    37:35 Cybersecurity Threats and Deep Fakes

    43:54 Advice for Business Owners

    47:06 Resources for AI and Cybersecurity

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    50 mins
  • The Cyber Security Recruiter talks to James Leach, Managing Principal/Co-founder, Fortreum
    Jul 11 2025

    Navigating Entrepreneurship and Cybersecurity with James Leach

    In this episode of the Cyber Security Recruiter podcast, Tom discusses James Leach's journey from a security engineer to co-founding the independent assessment and technical testing firm Fortreum.

    James shares insights on his career progression, the challenges of entrepreneurship, and the importance of passion and grit in business. He emphasizes the value of being proactive, the need for company culture in remote setups, and the evolving landscape of AI in cybersecurity.

    The episode also delves into the significance of celebrating small wins and the necessity of continuous learning. James provides practical advice for aspiring cybersecurity professionals, including the importance of certifications and specialized hands-on experience.

    00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

    00:30 James Leach's Career Journey

    01:57 Entrepreneurship and Founding Fortreum

    02:23 Challenges and Rewards of Bootstrapping

    04:09 Advice for Aspiring Entrepreneurs

    05:50 Transition from Employee to Employer

    07:27 Importance of Self-Awareness and Delegation

    11:41 Building and Maintaining Company Culture

    15:03 Remote Work and Company Values

    17:46 Founding Principles and Company Culture

    18:01 Future Plans and Innovations

    19:47 Hiring Insights and Career Advice

    25:49 The Impact and Challenges of AI

    33:28 Entrepreneurial Wisdom and Recommendations

    37:16 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    James suggested:

    Atomic Habits by James Clear  

    Getting A Grip On Your Business by Gino Wickman

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    38 mins
  • The Cyber Security Recruiter talks to Steve Campbell, Technical Lead, CDW
    Jun 27 2025

    Navigating Cybersecurity with Steve Campbell: From Navy to Penetration Testing

    Join us for an enriching episode of the Cyber Security Recruiter Podcast, where we sit down with Steve Campbell, a seasoned penetration tester and technical lead at CDW.

    Steve takes us through his intriguing journey from the US Navy to becoming a key player in offensive security. With insights on breaking into the cybersecurity field, leveraging AI, enhancing communication skills, and the importance of deep work, this episode is packed with valuable advice for both aspiring and current cybersecurity professionals.

    Don't miss Steve's personal anecdotes and expert tips on making a mark in the ever-evolving world of cybersecurity.

    00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

    00:55 Steve Campbell's Career Journey

    02:16 Writing a Book: Challenges and Rewards

    04:03 The Importance of Continuous Learning

    09:02 Breaking into Pen Testing

    13:40 Networking and Job Hunting Tips

    18:46 Interview Tips and Resume Honesty

    25:01 The Value of IT Experience in Cybersecurity

    27:11 Foundational Knowledge in Cybersecurity

    28:57 The Role of AI in Cybersecurity

    32:33 Navigating the Job Market with AI Skills

    34:20 Learning and Adapting with AI

    37:00 Transitioning from Military to Cybersecurity

    39:21 Career Growth and Skills Development

    43:01 The Importance of Application Security

    44:40 Bug Bounties and Continuous Learning

    47:17 Deep Work and Focus in the Digital Age

    51:04 Bash Scripting for Pen Testers

    53:20 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    Steve suggested:  

    Deep Work by  Cal Newport

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    54 mins
  • The Cyber Security Recruiter talks to Mike Graham, Technical Recruiter, Ryan Consulting Group, Inc.
    Jun 20 2025

    Adapting and Thriving in Cybersecurity and Recruitment

    In this episode of the Cyber Security Recruiter podcast, Tom welcomes Mike Graham, a senior technical recruiter with a background in coaching and teaching. Mike shares his journey from being an educator to a recruiter and highlights the importance of adaptability, continuous learning, and staying productive in one’s career.

    The conversation touches on current market conditions, the impact of AI, and the significance of communication skills. Mike emphasizes the importance of process orientation, consistent productivity, and maintaining a growth mindset. He also shares valuable advice for job seekers and recruiters on how to stand out by being prepared and personalizing interactions.

    The episode closes with Mike recommending two influential books, 'How to Win Friends and Influence People' by Dale Carnegie and 'Atomic Habits' by James Clear, which have shaped his professional approach.

    00:00 Introduction and Greetings

    00:58 Mike's Background and Career Journey

    01:38 Recruitment Insights and Market Conditions

    02:29 Mike's Transition from Teaching to Recruiting

    07:00 Adapting and Adjusting in Recruitment

    14:44 Coaching Insights and Career Growth

    20:42 Current Market Trends and AI Impact

    26:33 The Future of Communication in Recruitment

    28:03 The Fast-Paced World of Agency Recruiting

    29:49 The Importance of Mentorship

    30:15 Mastering the Art of Cold Calling

    33:11 The Power of Personalized Messaging

    35:43 Consistency and Productivity in Recruitment

    44:28 The Value of Preparation

    48:39 Books That Shape Successful Recruiters

    Mike suggested:

     How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie

    Atomic Habits by James Clear

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    52 mins
  • The Cyber Security Recruiter talks to Jude Sunderbruch, Managing Director, OakTruss Group
    Jun 9 2025

    From Military Operations to Cybersecurity Leadership: Insights from Jude Sunderbruch

    In this episode of the Cyber Security Recruiter Podcast, Thomas is joined by Jude, a seasoned cybersecurity professional with a diverse background in military operations and civilian leadership roles.

    Jude shares his career journey, starting from his time in the U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations to his current role as Managing Director at OakTruss Group. He emphasizes the importance of focusing on current tasks, investing in continuous learning, and taking calculated risks. He emphasizes the importance of focusing on current tasks, investing in continuous learning, and taking calculated risks.

    Jude also discusses his experiences working in international settings, the evolution of cybersecurity roles, and the value of clear communication. Listeners will gain insights into effective career strategies, mentorship, and the benefits of global exposure.

    00:00 Introduction and Welcome

    01:03 Guest Introduction: Meet Jude

    02:33 Jude's Career Journey

    05:04 Career Advice and Mentorship

    08:43 Building Strong Connections

    15:54 The Importance of Self-Investment

    22:44 Aspiring to Leadership in Cybersecurity

    23:32 Building a Solid Base of Experience

    25:18 The Value of Travel and Cultural Exposure

    28:48 Memorable Career Experiences

    38:15 Insights from Books and Podcasts

    42:50 The Importance of Communication Skills

    45:44 Final Thoughts and Reflections

    Jude suggested:

    Agendas, Alternatives, and Public Policies by John W. Kingdom

    Financial Times and the wall Street  

    New York Times and Washington

    Post  Daily from the New York Times

    Podcast Fresh Air by Terry Gross

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    47 mins
  • The Cyber Security Recruiter talks to Dr. Mike Saylor, Chief Executive Officer, Blackswan Cybersecurity
    Jun 3 2025

    Navigating the Cybersecurity Terrain with Dr Mike Saylor

    In this episode of 'The Cybersecurity Recruiter,' Mike Saylor joins the discussion, sharing his extensive experience in cybersecurity spanning over 30 years.

    He discusses his journey from running various businesses to becoming a professor and executive director in cybersecurity. Mike highlights the importance of persistence in the field, the significance of mentorship, and the critical nature of updating skills continually. He also touches on emerging job roles, the evolving nature of cyber threats, and the role of AI.

    The conversation focuses on guiding fresh entrants and professionals in the cybersecurity industry, emphasizing the need for resilience, continuous learning, and proactive career planning.

    00:00 Introduction and Welcome

    00:30 Guest Introduction: Mike's Background

    01:19 A Day in the Life of Mike

    03:12 Insights on Cybersecurity Careers

    04:26 The Importance of Mentoring and Career Advice

    07:30 Challenges in Cybersecurity Education

    11:50 The Role of Leadership in Cybersecurity

    14:11 The Broad Scope of Cybersecurity Jobs

    20:19 The Impact of AI on Cybersecurity

    22:23 The Value of Continuous Learning

    28:54 Promotion Based on Tenure vs. Expertise

    30:13 Job Market Trends and Cybersecurity Demand

    30:49 Cross-Training and Collaboration in Cybersecurity

    32:10 Entering the Cybersecurity Community

    34:01 The Importance of Mentorship and Career Planning

    37:09 Effective Job Search Strategies

    46:38 Public Speaking and Personal Growth

    49:30 Authorship and Continuous Learning

    54:40 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    Dr. Mike suggested:

    Digital Crime and Digital Terrorism by Robert W. Taylor, Eric J. Fritsch, and John R. Liederbach

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    55 mins
  • The Cyber Security Recruiter talks to Jeremy Conway, Chief Executive Officer, MAD Security
    May 28 2025

    From Military Leadership to Cybersecurity Entrepreneurship: A Journey with Jeremy Conway

    In this episode of the Cyber Security Recruiter Podcast, Jeremy Conway shares his compelling journey from the U.S. Army to becoming a successful entrepreneur in the cybersecurity industry. Jeremy discusses his time in the military, his transition into the commercial world, the leaps and lessons learned in starting and growing his business, and the significance of a positive mindset.

    He also sheds light on building a personal brand, the importance of adding value, and strategies for winning and retaining business clients. The conversation delves into leadership lessons, the impact of AI on jobs, and offers empowering insights for anyone looking to make significant strides in their professional life.

    00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

    00:49 Jeremy Conway's Background and Career Journey

    02:51 Transitioning from Military to Civilian Life

    04:01 Building a Successful Career in Cybersecurity

    05:00 Entrepreneurial Journey and Business Insights

    06:47 Mindset and Overcoming Challenges

    10:43 Advice for Aspiring Professionals

    20:08 Navigating Anxiety and Maintaining Focus

    28:48 Overcoming Anxiety with Action

    28:56 The Power of the Power Five

    30:54 Learning from a Visionary CEO

    35:55 Embracing Change and AI

    39:39 Building a Successful Business

    50:25 The Importance of Personal Branding

    53:33 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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    54 mins
  • The Cyber Security Recruiter talks to John Owen, Director of Security Analytics, Fulcrum Technology Solutions and guests David Huynh & Braden Scribner
    May 16 2025

    Breaking into Cybersecurity: Insider Tips and Career Advice

    In this special Round Table episode of the Cyber Security Recruiter Podcast, Tom welcomes guests David Huynh, Brayden Scribner, and John Owen, Director of Security Analytics at Fulcrum Technology Solutions, to discuss entry-level challenges and career progression in cybersecurity. They explore common mistakes by new entrants, the importance of personal branding, and effective application strategies.

    The conversation also delves into the significance of real-world experience, educational paths, and the roles of certifications and boot camps. The guests share their insights on the evolving cybersecurity landscape, with practical advice on how to stand out and succeed. Highlights include John's recount of managing a major security breach early in his career, and a discussion on the human aspect of cybersecurity's future.

    00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

    01:12 Common Mistakes for New Cybersecurity Candidates

    03:43 Handling Imposter Syndrome in Cybersecurity

    09:03 Changes in Cybersecurity Hiring Trends

    14:53 Choosing the Right College Program for Cybersecurity

    22:44 Breaking into Cybersecurity: Tips and Strategies

    29:01 Understanding the Sales Team Structure

    30:23 The Importance of Networking in Cybersecurity

    32:00 Debating Technical Routes: College, Bootcamp, or Self-Study?

    34:02 The Value of Certifications and Real-Life Experience

    36:14 The Human Aspect of Technology and AI

    39:01 Key Differences Between High Performers and Aspiring Professionals

    45:39 The Role of Hands-On Experience in Job Applications

    49:16 Challenging Incidents and Career Growth in Cybersecurity

    53:30 Final Thoughts and Acknowledgements

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    55 mins