• Embracing Doubt: The New Rulebook for High-Performance Leadership with Dr. John Dentico
    Dec 9 2025

    Welcome to The Business of Thinking, the podcast for high achievers seeking mastery over motivation, as Richard Reed is joined by author, leadership expert, and business coach, Dr. John Dentico. This episode delves into Dr. Dentico's background as a Naval Officer , and explores the pivotal role of trust in every organization and relationship. Dr. Dentico emphasizes that trust is not built through talk, but is a byproduct of action and engagement. Listen in as they discuss the power of mutual trust , the necessity of being proactive and transparent with bad news , and the importance of embracing doubt and ambiguity to kickstart genuine collaboration.

    This conversation offers vital insights for leaders and teams, challenging the traditional view of leadership. Dr. Dentico proposes that "leadership is what people do together" and advocates for a shift from focusing on an individual leader's traits to fostering organizational values. The discussion also covers the critical need for meaning and values alignment in the post-COVID work world, citing Victor Frankl's "Man's Search for Meaning".

    Key Takeaways

    Trust is the vital fuel for all organizations and relationships and is created through action and mutual engagement, not conversation.

    Leaders should proactively deliver both good and bad news with honesty to build trust and integrity.

    Embracing doubt and ambiguity opens the door for genuine, necessary collaboration, moving past the "big hug" of fake consensus.

    Meaning is the greatest motivational force; creating meaning and a sense of mattering for people is key to addressing engagement problems.

    Leadership should be viewed as an implementable process done collaboratively, rather than a set of traits held by one individual.

    Episode Highlights

    01:10 Dr. John Dentico’s journey from New York City to Naval Officer.

    03:57 The two core lessons learned in the Navy: the power of trust and taking care of your people.

    04:34 Discussing trust, psychological safety, and the importance of being safe to speak up.

    05:34 Trust as a byproduct of action and the concept of mutual trust.

    07:33 Building trust through consistency, authenticity, and honesty in communication.

    10:08 The shift: Why modern leaders must embrace doubt and ambiguity to foster true collaboration.

    12:00 The "big hug" problem: Why fake collaboration fails to engage people.

    14:34 The power of meaning as the greatest motivational force and its link to engagement.

    17:26 The role of ego in leadership and the first rule of leadership: "It's not about you".

    18:36 From servant leadership to collaborative leadership: "Leadership is what people do together".

    23:47 The mismatch between leadership training and organizational culture/reward systems.

    24:43 The need for culture to be empathetic, authentic, and support vulnerability.

    31:09 Post-COVID realization: People are seeking values alignment over just a paycheck.

    34:35 Reflecting on Victor Frankl’s three ways to derive meaning.

    38:21 Dr. Dentico's current projects: A Udemy course on interviewing and fractional work in strategic thinking.

    🔗 Connect With John Dentico

    Website: www.throttleupleadership.com

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johndentico

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    43 mins
  • The Lost Art of Leadership and Sustaining High Performance with Jez Rose
    Dec 2 2025

    Jez Rose joins Richard Reid on The Business of Thinking podcast to discuss his multifaceted career - from being a speaker and author to a ceramic artist and the first certified carbon neutral honey farmer. Jez explores the concept of "going all in" on life, which has been informed by personal experiences with loss and crisis. He delves into the psychology of high performance, arguing that the focus should shift from achieving it to sustaining high performance, which requires embracing self-reflection, pausing, and getting rid of the unnecessary - both physical objects and influences.


    Key Takeaways


    Sustaining High Performance is the Sweet Spot: High performance is achievable, but the real secret is sustaining it, which is much more difficult than the "easy route" of just pushing for more.

    The Power of Pause and Reset: The most powerful notion is giving yourself permission to stop, press pause, and reset, allowing you to re-evaluate and remove what no longer serves you in both work and life.

    Leadership is Psychology and Behavioural Science: Effective leadership is fundamentally about understanding the psychology of people, knowing what reinforces your team members' behaviour, and modeling vulnerability rather than pretending to have all the answers.

    You Have Enough: A powerful realization is that you are enough and you have enough, which is a core Buddhist practice that can bring mental clarity and freedom by removing constant consumption and comparison.


    Episode Highlights

    Jez Rose's accidental journey into becoming the first certified carbon neutral honey farmer and how his environmental commitment aligns with the difficulty of "doing the right thing" in leadership and sustaining high performance.

    How an experience as a critical care paramedic trainee informed Jez's philosophy of being "all in" on life because you are never guaranteed the next day.

    The "Seasonal Change Model" which suggests that navigating change involves four phases that mirror nature's seasons, offering a way to identify where you are and what comes next.

    The tragic common pattern in businesses where high-performing teams are exhausted because leaders keep pushing for "a bit more" without focusing on sustainability.

    The story of a diabetic employee who received a massive hamper of chocolate as a "catch-all" award, illustrating a failure of leadership to know what truly motivates or reinforces an individual's behaviour.

    The quote by Lao Tzu, "To hold, you must first open your hand, let go," and the immense trust required to let go of comfortable but unhappy situations in life.


    Timestamps

    00:49:03 Jez's upbringing and the discovery of Buddhism

    00:00:51:09 Jez Rose's accidental honey farm and being carbon neutral

    00:03:41:00 Why "going all in" on life is his philosophy

    00:05:34:14 Transition to a speaker/trainer and working with Disney and Lloyd's Bank

    00:06:43:03 Career as a professional magician and TV presenter

    00:10:29:23 The power of pressing pause and a blank new page

    00:15:46:12 The real tragedy of high performance and sustaining it

    00:17:38:07 The importance of knowing what drives individual team members

    00:22:28:03 Moving away from annual appraisals to monthly check-ins

    00:23:50:19 The problem with "nonsense" values that can't be lived

    00:27:20:14 The Seasonal Change Model for navigating life changes

    00:28:28:08 How to start the change process: cutting back physical objects and influences

    00:33:57:17 The quote: "you can't go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending"

    00:36:19:12 Leaders an

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    46 mins
  • Stop Telling People What to Do: The Data-Driven Psychology of Workplace Culture with Matt Phelan
    Nov 25 2025

    This episode of The Business of Thinking features host Richard Reed in conversation with Matt Phelan, co-founder of The Happiness Index. They skip the surface level talk and go straight into the psychology of high performance , exploring Matt's unique background, the founding of his company, and the power of data in measuring and transforming workplace culture. Matt shares a powerful philosophy from his farming roots: "You have to create the right environment and things take time" for growth.

    Tune in to discover why Matt believes marketing teams are often 10 years ahead of HR teams in resource and data utilization , and his belief that "comparison is the fee for joy".


    Key Takeaways


    Farming Philosophy in Business: Matt's farming upbringing shaped his approach to business—focusing on creating the right environment for growth, accepting setbacks, and taking responsibility.

    The Power of Data in Culture: The Happiness Index was built to add data and "light" to the subjective world of culture and HR, much like data transformed marketing.

    Embrace Freedom and Growth: Matt’s transition from a restricted corporate role to entrepreneurship was driven by a desire for autonomy and freedom, embracing the scary but exhilarating "big ocean" of business.

    Conversation is the Lowest Barrier to Entry: To begin developing an organizational culture, start conversations: ask colleagues what truly motivates them (unpeeling the "onion" of their answers) and collect that information.


    Episode Highlights


    Matt's unconventional upbringing on a farm in Harwich, Essex, and how it instilled principles of commitment and hard work.

    Relatable experiences with the pandemic from a farmer's perspective, having already gone through crises like BSE (Mad Cow Disease) and Foot and Mouth.

    The psychological resistance to data, even conclusive evidence, when it contradicts long-held beliefs or identity.

    Matt's advice on normalizing uncomfortable reactions to data by explaining the role of hormones, urging people to lean in when data feels "icky".

    The strategic decision to go "deep and not wider" with The Happiness Index, aiming to uncover more than the believed 9.5% of what makes us tick in the world of work.


    Timestamps


    00:00:48 Matt's Farming Background & Philosophy

    00:01:44 The Farmer's Approach to Growth and Environment

    00:04:45 Transition to Marketing and Entrepreneurship

    00:06:05 The Founding of The Happiness Index

    00:11:49 Resistance to Change and Conventional Wisdom

    00:14:39 Normalizing Uncomfortable Data (Ego & Hormones)

    00:18:00 Why Internal Comparison is Better than External Benchmarking

    00:19:46 Future: Going Deeper and Connecting Culture to Performance

    00:24:48 The Importance of Continually Checking In (People Change)

    00:25:47 Final Takeaway: Stay Intrigued About People


    🔗 Connect with Matt Phelan


    Website: https://mattphelan.co.uk/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewphelan/

    Instagram: @ matthewJphelan

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thehappinessindex


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    27 mins
  • Too Resilient? Finding Balance and Beating Burnout, with Ali Cammelletti
    Nov 18 2025

    In this episode, leadership coach and keynote speaker Ali Cammelletti shares her powerful personal backstory and philosophy on resilience. Ali discusses her upbringing, which led to high-achieving traits like perfectionism, hypervigilance, and a drive to earn self-worth through her career, ultimately taking a toll on her health.

    She shares candidly about managing life-altering stress - including a major health crisis, family loss, and divorce - and how these experiences forced her to create crucial daily tools. Learn how to identify when you're being "too resilient," distinguish between actions driven by love vs. fear, and apply mindfulness and gratitude practices to build sustainable high performance.


    Key Takeaways

    • Cost of Hyper-Achievement: Unsafe environments can lead to perfectionism (stickler), hyper-achievement, and hyper-vigilance (anxiety) as defense mechanisms.
    • Health as a Red Flag: Neglecting self-care manifests in serious health issues; the body shouts louder when you're not listening.
    • The Worth-Production Cycle: Many high achievers unconsciously try to earn their worth through their production—a sign they may feel unsatisfied elsewhere.
    • Mindfulness in Nature: Daily rituals like spending time in nature without earbuds are powerful for balance and reducing anxiety.
    • The Secret Sauce of Gratitude: A daily gratitude practice is important for resilience, especially when negative feelings arise.
    • Love Over Fear: Ali's core personal value is ensuring all her actions are out of love, not fear.
    • Values as a Compass: Feeling like something is "not right" is often a sign your actions are not in alignment with your core values.


    Episode Breakdown Highlights

    • Ali’s challenging upbringing and the development of high-achiever characteristics.
    • The warning sign: How Ali’s lack of self-care led to a massive liver tumor.
    • Hitting a wall with anxiety and depression during the four-year adoption wait.
    • Actionable Tools: The importance of self-care, exercise, and gratitude practice.
    • Living by the personal value: All actions are out of love, not fear.
    • Current work: Developing a core value alignment survey for companies.


    🔗 Connect with Ali

    • Website: Spark Your Mindset
    • LinkedIn: Ali King Cammelletti
    • Instagram: Snack Leadership
    • Facebook: Spark Your Mindset
    • YouTube: Spark Your Mindset


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    38 mins
  • How to Use Your Thinking Power to Lead and Stop Being Quiet, with Laura Camacho
    Nov 18 2025

    In this conversation with leadership coach Laura Camacho, we explore the psychology of high-performance for introverted entrepreneurs and leaders. Laura, who specializes in communication for introverts, addresses the negative stigmas introverts face (e.g., being perceived as disinterested for not speaking up).

    Learn actionable strategies to manage your energy, increase visibility, and leverage your innate strengths as a deep thinker so your valuable ideas are acknowledged.

    Key Takeaways

    • Introversion Defined: Introverts need to recharge after social interaction; managing this energy is key to success.
    • Silence Stigma: Not speaking up can be falsely assumed as a lack of commitment or having nothing to contribute, leading to low visibility.
    • Preparation is Power: The biggest challenge for introverts is thinking on their feet. Preparing points ahead of time is vital for effective contribution.
    • "Sell It Before You Tell It": Increase the perceived value of your ideas by adding context or "packaging" to evoke curiosity before revealing the solution.
    • Building Your "Insurance": When exhausted, use sincere texts or emails to build an emotional bank account. This prevents misinterpretation of low energy as being aloof or angry.
    • Trusted Advisor Mindset: Reframe speaking up not as "ego," but as your responsibility to contribute value and help people make better decisions.
    • Inclusive Leadership: Leaders must intentionally give introverts a heads-up or topic to prepare for before meetings to capture their valuable input.

    Episode Breakdown Highlights

    • The key lesson: Being an expert is not the same as selling your craft.
    • Addressing false assumptions: Why introverts are often negatively perceived.
    • The Achilles heel: Struggling to think on your feet.
    • Communication as a source of value (Warren Buffett quote).
    • Reframing speaking up to focus on creating value.

    🔗 Connect with Laura

    • Website: www.speakupwithlaura.com
    • Free Resource: Executive Presence Scorecard
      • This quick assessment reveals the gaps between the leader you think you are and the leader others experience.
      • Get free access: Email hello@speakupwithlaura.com with the word "score" in the subject line.

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    41 mins