Natasha Rai interviews award-winning author Jack Heath (49 novels, published in 10 languages) about his YA thriller 'I Know What You’re Hiding'. Heath gives an elevator pitch: after a house fire kills one sister, survivor Jamie receives a blood-written note saying “I know what you’re hiding,” and teen true-crime podcaster Zoe investigates the blackmail. Heath discusses writing for ages 12–16, the book’s long development from an earlier pitch that spun into the 'Liars' series, and why Zoe returned after 'If You Tell Anyone You’re Next'. He explains lessons about series vs sequels, selling manuscripts to publishers, balancing promotion with writing, his daily process and project management, outlining, differences between adult and kids fiction, idea “odd sock drawer” blending, embracing negative feedback, and joining nonprofit writing groups. The Debut Spotlight features Lisa Moule’s debut 'The Mother of All Calamities'.

00:00 Podcast Intro
00:42 Meet Jack Heath
01:44 Elevator Pitch
03:28 Writing Dark YA
05:42 Origins of the Novel
10:04 Odd Sock Ideas
11:35 Series Lessons
14:15 Selling to Publishers
18:28 Promotion Pressures
21:43 Writing Routine
25:45 Word Count Planning
27:45 Editing and Reading Style
30:12 Editing Versus Drafting
31:44 Guest Introduction
32:15 Outlining To Sell Books
36:41 Adult Versus Kids Writing
45:44 Ideas And Book Mashups
50:33 Sustainable Career Lessons
54:04 Embracing Negative Feedback
58:47 Advice And Writing Communities
01:01:25 Wrap Up And Credits

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Madeleine interviews Tasmania-based ABC journalist and digital editor Rebecca Armitage about her debut novel, The Heir Apparent (December 2025, HarperCollins Australia).

One might think Rebecca’s journey to publication was a bit of a fairytale, with simultaneous releases in multiple territories, pre-empts, a Reese’s Book Club pick and even a TV deal! But her journey to publication was not without its challenges, and Rebecca has some fabulous advice about creating good writing habits, finding resilience when dealing with multiples rejections and some great tips for when your book hits the shelves.

She details early rejections, pitching through the Australian Society of Authors, getting the 'yes', landing a HarperCollins pr-eempt and major US/UK deals, feels after being selected for Reese’s Book Club - and prompting a pub date shift, TV deals and more. She has some wonderful advice for emerging and debut authors on habit-setting, writing and pitching.

Our Debut in the Spotlight is Leearna Shaw, whose debut novel is A Farm in Golden Clouds (March 2026, Allen & Unwin).

00:56 Introduction to Rebecca Armitage

01:39 Heir Apparent Elevator Pitch

04:00 Journalism and Fiction

06:08 Inspiration

10:11 Research

15:14 Plotter or Pantser

17:40 Writing Habits and Targets

21:56 Draft to Submission

23:21 Pitching and Finding an Agent

26:27 First Yes Moment

26:58 Rejection Resilience

28:35 HarperCollins Preempt

30:11 Global Deal Whirlwind

36:16 Reese Book Club Pick

40:44 TV Adaptation Plans

44:11 Launch Advice for Debuts

47:06 Tassie Reading Recommends

49:25 Final Writing Top Tip

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Tina Strachan interviews author and CYA Conference coordinator Tina Clark about how the CYA writers and illustrators conference helps aspiring and emerging creators secure publication through competitions, bootcamps, and agent/editor/publisher assessments. Clark explains her motivation to centralize trustworthy industry information and protect writers from predatory services, and she outlines CYA’s hybrid format, including online bootcamps, in-person July sessions, and a rooftop networking event at the Pullman Hotel. She details how bootcamps work in small groups with editors, how competitions provide two sets of blind-judged feedback and shortlist entries for a final publisher/editor decision, and gives practical submission tips like strictly following guidelines and formatting headers/footers. She advises not to argue with editors in assessments and emphasizes her top tip: finish the book—“bum in chair” writing.

00:00 Podcast Intro
00:56 Meet Tina Clark
06:38 CYA Origins
08:06 Shadows of Africa
12:20 Why She Champions Writers
16:15 CYA Overview
16:46 Bootcamps Breakdown
24:21 Debut Spotlight: Bridie Blake
25:36 CYA Competition Dates
28:09 Judging Process
33:29 Prizes And Growth
35:24 Publisher Feedback Limits
35:46 Follow Submission Guidelines
37:35 Formatting Pitfalls
39:42 Why Assessments Matter
43:01 Submit the Opening Pages
45:49 Networking Not Pitching
46:58 Never Argue With Editors
48:50 Success Stories And Notes
55:26 Conference Day Options
57:07 Panels And Program Highlights
01:02:00 Rooftop Networking Night
01:03:14 Bum In Chair Finale

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