Welcome to another, of what we hope will become a regular weekly or bi-weekly catch-up between Andy from That UFO Podcast and Pavel from Psicoactivo.

In this episode, Andy and Pavel break down the latest major claims from Dr. Eric Davis, including his comments on alleged alien species, Skinwalker Ranch, Roswell, cattle mutilations, the hitchhiker effect and what can or cannot be said publicly.

The conversation also digs into the wider state of the UFO topic right now, including Gerb’s questioning, Hal Puthoff, Skywatcher, alleged orbs, counterintelligence concerns, the problem of cult-like belief systems, and why so many people in this space seem to be pulling in different directions.

Dan Cleary from Others From Another Mother also jumps in for part of the discussion, adding his thoughts on skywatches, CE5-style claims, evidence, and where the community should draw the line between open-mindedness and belief.

The show finishes with discussion around Vanguard, Matthew Brown, Dylan Borland, whistleblower support, and what kind of questions the community should be asking next.

A loose, honest and wide-ranging UFO roundtable, with plenty of disagreement, humour and big questions.

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Release 4 of the US government’s UFO files has arrived, bringing 23 videos, three NASA images and 14 documents spanning more than 70 years.

Andy reviews the most interesting footage, including several fast-moving objects and one unusually clear structure, before examining NASA’s STS-80 images and recent comments from NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman, who acknowledged that NASA has captured imagery it still cannot explain.

Also discussed:

Dr. Phil McGraw’s early access to the files and his White House advisory connection
An unknown object tracked near the Pantex nuclear weapons facility in 2015
Military Range Fouler reports from 2019 and 2020
The classified 1949 Los Alamos green fireball conference
Early Project Sign analysis
CIA and Project Blue Book documents
What is genuinely interesting, what may be prosaic and what is simply older material being repackaged

Does Release 4 move the story forward, or are we still waiting for the evidence that changes the conversation?

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Andy is back with a packed UFO news update as Roswell anniversary week collides with new disclosure rumours, congressional pressure and major debate inside the UAP community.

In this episode, Andy looks at the latest claims around a possible July 8th announcement, Anna Paulina Luna’s comments that an announcement is coming soon, David Grusch’s 60-to-90-day window, and the MKUltra hearing.

Also discussed: Ross Coulthart pressing Lue Elizondo over alleged Legacy Program connections, Elizondo’s response on Cuomo, Burchett and Elizondo appearing with Sean Hannity, UAP Gerb questioning Hal Puthoff and Avi Loeb on Fresh Freedom, Eric Burlison’s comments on a confirmed 1952 MIT Lincoln Lab reel-to-reel audio file, and Stephen Greer’s call for a global bypass of the US disclosure process.

Plus, Andy answers listener questions on soft disclosure, crash retrievals, China and Russia’s silence, the Legacy Program, David Grusch, and whether the public is being dragged through another cycle of “soon.”

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