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TEXT AND ROCK.

TEXT AND ROCK.

By: Mark Shaffer and Eric Madison
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Ancient myth and artifact meet poetry and rhythm for the post-modern soul.​

Hosted by Mark Shaffer and Eric Madison, TEXT AND ROCK is a weekly podcast that bridges the gap between ancient wisdom and contemporary life. Mark, an antiquarian, writer, and part-time punk rocker, and Eric, a musician, podcaster, and rhythm instructor, delve into topics ranging from biblical texts and ancient artifacts to modern spirituality and cultural critique. Their engaging discussions aim to help listeners read the Bible like an ancient and have faith like a modern.​

Whether you're seeking to deepen your understanding of sacred texts, explore the intersections of faith and culture, or simply enjoy thought-provoking conversations, TEXT AND ROCK offers a unique perspective that resonates with the post-modern soul.​

For more content, including poetry and video, visit www.textandrock.com.​

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Episodes
  • FAITH AND DOUBT 06. HOW TO BE FRIENDS ON THE SPECTRUM OF FAITH AND DOUBT AND MORE ON FAITH AS A CREED.
    Dec 7 2025

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    A friend of the show and I continue talking about faith and doubt. This episode we chat about how to be sincere friends with people we love all across the spectrum of faith and doubt. Serving your atheist friend might be the most Christian thing you can do. A lot of times being right is less important than being in healthy relationships.

    We also talk about how many people frame God in very specific ways-- God is the judgmental father in the sky, God is like Santa Clause, God is like an angry storm God-- but this imagery often comes out our own wounds and disappointment.

    Then we pivot and talk more about faith in God and particularly Christianity is not a religion, it is a creed. At least for Mark, he tries to let go of faith as being convinced of uncertain theological tenets or even miracles, and instead about binding yourself to an ethical creed centered around the teachings of Jesus.

    We hope you love it!


    For Text and Rock Poetry, Podcasts, and Video Content or to contact Mark and Eric, visit us at www.textandrock.com.

    You can find all of social handles here:

    TEXT AND ROCK SOCIALS.

    Want to support the show, experience our best creative work, buy one of our books or give an uncommonly better gift or art and heart? Ha! Head to the TEXT AND ROCK DIGITAL PRESS.


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    25 mins
  • FAITH AND DOUBT 05. GOD WEARS KID GLOVES.
    Nov 30 2025

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    A friend of the show and I continue talking about faith and doubt. This episode we talk about what to do when the bottom falls out-- to have faith or not to have faith?

    We both believe that whenever something truly horrible happens, we actually have a choice whether to lean into God/Source/Universe/Being/Oneness, or to lean out. At these times people either grow in faith immensely or become very bitter and angry.

    Along the way, we talk about Jesus' disciple Thomas, hope for all of us part-time believers, and how God fights us with kid gloves.

    We hope you love it!


    For Text and Rock Poetry, Podcasts, and Video Content or to contact Mark and Eric, visit us at www.textandrock.com.

    You can find all of social handles here:

    TEXT AND ROCK SOCIALS.

    Want to support the show, experience our best creative work, buy one of our books or give an uncommonly better gift or art and heart? Ha! Head to the TEXT AND ROCK DIGITAL PRESS.


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    20 mins
  • FAITH AND DOUBT 04. GOD BEHAVING BADLY.
    Oct 24 2025

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    A friend of the show stops by to chat about the Faith and Doubt Series. This episode we chat about how tough questions about God from our children actually get to the heart of adult issues with faith, doubt, and being a good human.

    Along the way, we talk about God behaving badly in the Bible, the Flood narratives, and how to read with the grain of the editors of sections of the Bible...

    It's a trip! We hope you love it!


    For Text and Rock Poetry, Podcasts, and Video Content or to contact Mark and Eric, visit us at www.textandrock.com.

    You can find all of social handles here:

    TEXT AND ROCK SOCIALS.

    Want to support the show, experience our best creative work, buy one of our books or give an uncommonly better gift or art and heart? Ha! Head to the TEXT AND ROCK DIGITAL PRESS.


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    16 mins
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