Rachelle Loyear is a globally recognised security professional with a diverse background in project management, technology, organizational resilience, and in particular enterprise security risk management; she has co-authored a book on this topic and is writing another one. Rachelle is also a volunteer leader.

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Bob Hayes is well known for being founder of the US based Security Executive Council (SEC) and The Security Leadership Research Institute. He has generated a wide range of reports and articles on different aspects of security. He is a regular speaker at conferences and commentator on security issues.

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David Horsburgh started life as a police officer in New Zealand specialising in intelligence gathering before moving into the private security sector. He has presented some very high-profile reports on some of the major crime and security issues in New Zealand. David is a former winner of the Lifetime Achievement Award at the New Zealand OSPAs.

In this podcast David discusses his early intelligence gathering work – from learning how to pick locks and defeat alarm systems - and how this influenced legislation; how his specialist expertise has been instrumental in rethinking traditional policing/security approaches; and his hopes for a change in thinking on responding to crime.

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