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Second Nature

Second Nature

By: Dylan Bowman & Aaron Lutze
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The business of outdoor hosted by Aaron Lutze & Dylan Bowman2024 Economics
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  • 20 Years Of Brand Building Lessons: FlyLow
    Jan 9 2026

    FlyLow was founded by Dan Abrams and Greg Steen twenty years ago to create backcountry ski pants that could hold up to the demands of the sport and terrain. They continued to refine and expand the product line, as their own proficiencies were expanding and refining. Dan joins us this week to share stories and lessons from the journey so far.

    Show Notes:

    FlyLow Gear: https://flylowgear.com/

    Dan Abrams: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-abrams-4287775/

    Megan Michaelson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meganmichelson/

    Greg Steen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-steen-7419041b/

    Alibaba: https://www.alibaba.com/

    Cactus Outdoor: https://cactusoutdoor.co.nz/

    CAGR (term): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compound_annual_growth_rate

    Hot Tub Short (FlyLow): https://flylowgear.com/products/hot-tub-short

    Anderson Shirt (FlyLow): https://flylowgear.com/products/anderson-shirt

    Irwin Fleece (FlyLow): https://flylowgear.com/products/irwin-fleece-shirt

    BPC - Brand, Product, Content:

    Moment Skis: https://www.momentskis.com/

    Momentous Creatine: https://crrnt.app/MOME/P1ZgGplx

    Todd Snyder: https://www.toddsnyder.com/

    Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media

    Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature

    Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media

    Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media

    Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia

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    1 hr and 8 mins
  • All Good Things Must Come To An End
    Dec 26 2025

    It's the end of an era, and what a chapter it was. Red Bull, the brand that brought Dylan and Aaron together, has graduated Dylan from their official athlete roster. It felt like the perfect time to put the partnership in perspective, with takeaways, stories and lessons from nearly a decade-long partnership. This is the lifecycle of a brand relationship that brings the best out of everyone involved - but, all good things must come to an end.

    Show Notes:

    Dylan Bowman: https://www.instagram.com/dylanbo/

    Aaron Lutze: https://www.instagram.com/superridertv/

    Lisa Burnes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-burnes-670a356/

    Red Bull Lost Coast Film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhbO241F_xE

    Campfire Stories - DBo Croatia: https://www.redbull.com/int-en/episodes/dylan-bowmans-tale-of-teeth-and-triumph-campfire-stories-s01-e01

    Red Bull - Last Set: https://www.redbull.com/us-en/videos/action-clip-(dirty)-dylan-bowman

    Freetrail: https://www.freetrail.com

    Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media

    Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature

    Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media

    Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media

    Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia

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    1 hr and 26 mins
  • The Business Of Outdoor Eats
    Dec 19 2025

    Chef Corso launched Outdoor Eats to improve the quality of trailside food. On his journey to level up everyone's culinary experience outdoors, he managed to build a brand that includes a TV series (going on its third season), a line of cookbooks, and plenty more. Reaching the outdoor audience has been an iterative process, and we dug into all of the details and steps along the way.

    Chef Corso: https://www.instagram.com/outdooreats365/

    Outdoor Eats: https://outdooreats.tv/

    Trail Meals Cookbook: https://outdooreats.com/product/trail-meals-cascade-edition/

    Chef Corso Substack: https://chefcorso.substack.com/

    Creativity Inc: https://amzn.to/48UruQ4

    Science Of Scaling: https://amzn.to/4r6MviC

    Heliconia Productions: https://heliconia.ca/

    Aaron's SF Peninsula Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHqGcGxmvGw

    Titanium Spork: https://outdooreats.com/product/creekside-titanium-spork/

    OE Guided Trips 2026: https://outdooreats.com/outdoor-eats-guided-trips-2026/

    BPC - Brand, Product, Content:

    Why You Eat What You Eat: https://amzn.to/4j2ypLy

    Mama Lil's Peppers: https://amzn.to/3KRoUm0

    Red Bull - Everest Ski Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjZvFY6__qw

    Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/second-nature-media

    Meet us on Slack: https://www.launchpass.com/second-nature

    Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondnature.media

    Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.secondnature.media

    Subscribe to the YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@secondnaturemedia

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    1 hr and 11 mins
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