Ever had a long run derailed by raw skin, burning friction, or a hydration belt that turns your back into sandpaper. This conversation follows the real story of a runner and chemical engineer who took on chafing with an endurance-first mindset, building a thin, durable film that lasts for hours, rinses clean, and doesn’t stain your favorite shirt.

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Some runs change your pace. Others change your life. Helen Hanson joins us to share how a 15‑minute first mile became the start of an eleven‑year journey through recovery, resilience, and community—culminating in a grit‑filled New York City Marathon that doubled as a release valve for a hard year. We go deep on the moments that shaped her. Helen breaks down how small, repeatable wins built trust in herself. She’s candid about navigating family loss and setting boundaries, and she shares how running for a recovery‑focused charity gave her purpose when chasing a PR wasn’t the point.

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We talk with Jeffery Heard about finding peace in running, building community, and making movement a lifelong habit. From boxing roots to half marathons and mentoring youth, he shares honest advice on comparison, gear myths, and why the first mile lies.

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