In this episode of the REB Podcast, editor Liam Garman sits down with DiJones CEO Dean Mackie and COO Brent May to explore what it takes to be the "agent of tomorrow" and how you can thrive in the rapidly evolving real estate market.

They discuss the speed of industry changes, from anti-money laundering and counter-terrorism financing (AML/CTF) reforms and Office of the Australian Information Commissioner (OAIC) compliance to the disruptive impact of generative AI, and how top agents can balance innovation with the human connection.

Mackie explains the philosophy behind agents needing to "unlearn" outdated habits, while May reveals how enhanced databasing must form a key centrepiece of the agent's strategy – allowing them to find buyers before going to market.

The conversation turns to how competition is reshaping commission structure and the role of technology in marketing and property discovery, providing a pragmatic roadmap for agents and leaders navigating digital transformation and market consolidation.

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In this episode of the REB Podcast, editor Liam Garman sits down with Lloyd Ernst, founder and CEO of Cloudstaff, for a deep dive into how principals and directors can build scalable, future-ready, and tech-enabled real estate businesses.

Ernst reflects on his business's journey, founding companies that have since become multinational, providing insight into how remote workforces that align with local culture and performance objectives are fundamental for growth in today's real estate market.

Ernst and Garman then dive into the challenges of building trust and accountability across offshore teams, how artificial intelligence (AI) is reshaping workflows, and why the next generation of agencies will operate more like tech-enabled service companies than traditional offices. They then explore how Cloudstaff helps companies do this securely, overseeing cyber risks and enabling staff to effectively support the business.

Finally, Ernst offers practical insights for principals on how to leverage remote teams of any size without losing control, quality, or brand integrity, and explains how Cloudstaff's tailored training ensures offshore staff can quickly integrate and contribute to business success.

In this episode of the REB Podcast, editor Liam Garman sits down with Sean Hanneberry, CEO of Professionals, for a candid conversation about leadership, culture, and steering a national network through a once-in-a-generation brand transformation.

Hanneberry reflects on leading one of Australia's most recognisable real estate brands through a major rebrand in 2025, unpacking the realities of rolling out change across a vast membership base – and the challenges that inevitably come with it. He shares what it takes to modernise a legacy brand without losing the trust of the people who built it.

The discussion explores the tension between innovation and stability, particularly when it comes to proptech adoption. Hanneberry offers a pragmatic view on why not every new solution is worth the disruption, how network leaders should assess risk, and why members should never feel like guinea pigs in the pursuit of progress.

Hanneberry also dives deep into leadership within a membership model, revealing how democratic decision-making, playing to people's strengths, and elevating diverse voices can drive cohesion in an industry often dominated by individualism and ego.

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