In this episode of the Pool Magazine Podcast, we dive deep into the evolving role of hydrotherapy, wellness, and moving water in modern pool design.

From the innovators at Riverflow Pumps, we’re joined by founder Phil de Tournillon and Vice President Denise Canchola de Tournillon, alongside award-winning pool designer and GENESIS co-founder Brian Van Bower, and veteran builder and designer Marco Perrella.

Together, they explore how hydrotherapy is moving beyond traditional spas and into full-body, whole-pool experiences — reshaping backyards into personal recovery and wellness environments. The conversation covers everything from gentle current therapy and resistance walking to balance training, mental wellness, and how simply being immersed in moving water can reduce stress, improve mobility, and elevate everyday living.

At the center of the discussion is BlueOrbit — a category-starting wellness concept that creates a soft, circulating vortex in any body of water. Designed for recovery, movement, and relaxation, BlueOrbit transforms pools into dynamic spaces for low-impact exercise, floating meditation, and therapeutic motion — all powered by adjustable currents that can be tailored for everyone from elite athletes to grandparents.

You’ll also hear firsthand insights from builders on how clients are increasingly prioritizing health-focused features like swim currents, cold plunges, variable-speed circulation, and integrated hydrotherapy zones — and how thoughtful design can combine beauty, function, and longevity in a single backyard.

If you’re curious about where pool design is headed, how wellness is reshaping outdoor living, or how moving water is unlocking new possibilities for recovery and quality of life, this episode offers a compelling look at the future of hydrotherapy and experiential pools.

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In this episode of Pool Magazine Podcast, host Joe Trusty sits down with James Votraw, Southeast Business Development Manager for Latham Pools, whose remarkable 150-pound weight-loss journey has captured national attention. James opens up about the moment that forced him to reevaluate his health, how a persistent case of hiccups and a hospital visit became his wake-up call, and how his backyard pool transformed from a simple amenity into the tool that completely changed his life.

As the conversation unfolds, Votraw explains how swimming each day reshaped not only his body but his mindset, career, and family life. He talks about consistency, balance, and how builders and designers can do a better job of framing pools as wellness spaces rather than just leisure features. His message to the pool industry is clear: the products we create don’t just beautify backyards—they can build better human beings.

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In this episode, we sit down with Laci Davis and Natalie Hood from The Grit Game, one of the fastest-rising rep groups in the pool and spa industry. They break down who they are, how the company was born out of a desire to empower potential, and why being “the new kids on the block” is actually their biggest advantage. Laci lays out how their team—stacked with industry veterans from the Big Three, distribution, Aquastar, PHTA and more—was intentionally built to rethink what a modern rep firm should look like: faster, more transparent, more collaborative, and relentlessly committed to dealer and manufacturer success.

From there, the conversation shifts into what truly separates The Grit Game from the traditional rep model. Natalie explains how education, certification, and content creation have become core pillars of their approach, while Laci digs into their digital strategy and the partnerships they’ve built with both traditional manufacturers and emerging companies. They talk culture, growth, and the movement they’re trying to create—one that treats reps as allies, not order takers, and reshapes how the industry thinks about sales, service, and brand building.

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