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Sponsored by McKelvey Insurance and LightSource Psychotherapy

Who this episode is for:

• People who drink to take the edge off but can’t figure out why it’s not working
• Moms barely holding it together while doing all the things
• Anyone juggling success and secret self-destruction
• Former athletes still chasing performance highs
• Folks in the gray zone between “I’m fine” and “I’m falling apart”
• And the ones who think it’s “just wine”

This week, Chris, Jeff, and Zoe sit down with Allison Barber, a former collegiate gymnast turned alcohol freedom coach. Her story isn’t about a dramatic crash. It’s a slow slide—wine every night, quiet disconnection, pretending things are fine when they’re anything but.

She got out not through rehab or AA, but by finding This Naked Mind and realizing she didn’t need to hit bottom to change. No rock bottom. No labels. Just truth and science and a better way forward.

Now she helps others who feel stuck in the same loop—drinking more than they want to, quietly wondering if it’s a problem, and not sure where to turn. If you're sick of the guilt spiral and tired of trying to out-discipline your drinking, Allison’s approach will hit home.

She’s real, honest, and living proof that freedom doesn’t require everything falling apart. You can change your story before it wrecks you.

Find her at https://theinsideoutfreedom.com or email allisonbarbercoach@gmail.com

Timestamps:

• 00:00 – Sponsors
• 03:45 – Meet Allison Barber: gymnast, mom, nightly wine drinker
• 08:00 – Early perfectionism and pressure
• 13:15 – Bartles & James and beginning to self-medicate
• 22:00 – Marriage disconnect and drinking in secret
• 26:15 – The high-functioning lie
• 38:10 – Neck injury and the wake-up call
• 42:00 – Five bottles of wine in Florida
• 44:30 – Discovering This Naked Mind
• 53:30 – Becoming a certified coach
• 58:00 – Coaching without shame
• 1:06:00 – Parenting and healing
• 1:14:00 – Her last drink: June 21, 2020
• 1:18:32 – Confidence returns and major milestones
• 1:19:28 – theinsideoutfreedom.com and how to reach her
• 1:20:07 – Athletes and performance identity
• 1:21:10 – You don’t need to hit rock bottom
• 1:22:43 – The “sober curious” movement
• 1:25:43 – Ruth Langmore wisdom and humility
• 1:26:26 – Wine moms, COVID drinking, and purple teeth
• 1:29:00 – Heading to Hawaii without packing five bottles
• 1:31:36 – Recovery church and pizza
• 1:33:14 – Gratitude and staying connected

Work with Allison Barber

Visit https://theinsideoutfreedom.com or email allisonbarbercoach@gmail.com to schedule a free discovery call. You don’t need to hit bottom. You just need to want something better.

Sponsored by

• McKelvey Insurance
• LightSource Psychotherapy

Sponsored by:
🛡️ McKelvey Insurance – https://www.mckelveyins.com
🧠 LightSource Psychotherapy – https://findyourlightsource.com

S2 E39 – Losing Everything to Find Recovery with Jake Dunavant

Jake Dunavant shows up looking like a suburban dad with a Costco card. But don’t get it twisted. This man has walked through hell with a needle in his arm, kids in the next room, and nothing but chaos between him and redemption. A former union carpenter turned Senior Outreach Coordinator at Illinois Recovery Center, Jake is here to spill all the gut-punching, jaw-dropping, totally human details of his road from varsity wrestling to full-blown heroin addiction to reclaiming his family and purpose.

In this wild ride of an episode, the crew dives deep into Jake’s early intro to weed and booze, the rapid-fire escalation to cocaine and opioids, and the business-decision logic of IV heroin use. You’ll hear about the overdoses (plural), the Narcan resurrections, and the terrifying moment DFS swooped in and took his babies while he and his wife were literally overdosing in the same house. And yeah, he came this close to letting it all go to shit.

But against all odds, Jake and his wife Tabitha clawed their way back. Custody. Careers. Clean time. Faith. Family. All of it. He opens up about overcompensating as a parent, watching his son fumble a chance to compliment a girl (it’s hilarious), and how guilt-fueled parenting almost screwed them up all over again.

You’ll also get the full backstory on how he “courted” his now-wife with a dresser full of pink oxys. Take as many as you want, babe. And the deeply emotional, unshakeable power of hearing your newborn cry, only to stop the second he hears your voice. Yeah, even while you’re high as hell.

This one’s messy. It’s raw. It’s fucking real. If you’ve ever been there, or know someone who has, this episode will hit home in the deepest, ugliest, and most healing way.

Time Stamps (Do Not Skip These):

• 00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Sponsors
• 06:00 Introducing Jake Dunavant: A Personal Story
• 14:03 The Role of Alcohol and Drugs in Youth
• 19:56 The Escalation of Substance Use
• 21:03 The Dangers of Modern Substance Use
• 23:03 Parenting Through Addiction
• 29:15 Overcoming Addiction and Regaining Custody
• 32:11 The Narcan Experience
• 36:16 The Role of Family and Faith in Recovery
• 39:31 Empathy and Understanding in Addiction
• 42:38 The Complexity of Love and Addiction
• 45:11 The Journey from Pills to Heroin
• 50:00 Reflections on Early Relationships and Substance Use
• 50:40 The Power of Connection and Humor
• 53:01 Navigating Relationships and Substance Use
• 55:02 The Impact of Parenthood on Addiction
• 59:00 The Struggles of Addiction and Family Dynamics
• 01:02:02 Detox and the Journey to Recovery
• 01:06:55 Life After Jail: A New Beginning
• 01:13:36 The Cycle of Addiction and Recovery
• 01:17:39 Finding Support and Connection
• 01:18:16 The Struggles of Addiction
• 01:19:32 Family Dynamics and Foster Care
• 01:20:31 Resentment and Recovery
• 01:21:10 Hitting Rock Bottom
• 01:25:11 The Role of Compassionate Intervention
• 01:27:15 Peer Support and Recovery
• 01:29:13 The Impact of Medication in Recovery
• 01:33:19 Building a New Life After Addiction
• 01:40:12 The Journey to Recovery Begins
• 01:43:07 Navigating Sober Living Challenges
• 01:46:25 Building Accountability and Humility
• 01:49:05 Rebuilding Relationships and Family Dynamics
• 01:51:57 Full Circle: From Recovery to Helping Others
• 02:00:04 Lived Experience: A Valuable Perspective
• 02:10:06 Gratitude and Hope in Recovery

Guest: Jake Dunavant – Senior Outreach Coordinator at Illinois Recovery Center, former heroin addict, father, husband, and all-around beast of recovery.

Check out Illinois Recovery Center: https://www.illinoisrecoverycenter.com

Who this episode is for:
Those navigating trauma like a damn obstacle course.
Anyone who’s ever been raised by chaos and still learned how to laugh.
People who’ve walked out of therapy like it was a bad Tinder date.
Survivors of fucked-up families who still believe in healing.
Anyone tired of tiptoeing around their own pain.
Those who love a little irreverence with their recovery.
And yes—even people who aren’t in recovery but have ever felt like a complete mess trying to hold their shit together.

This episode is the official introduction to our new co-host—and certified chaos enthusiast—Zoë Mendenall, MSW, trauma warrior, and walking tornado of wit, wounds, and wisdom.

Chris and Jeff crack the mic with Zoë, who used to intern for Chris’ wife Ashley, and somehow found her way from clinical work to co-hosting this circus. She’s no stranger to the team—but now she’s on the mic, and she’s unfiltered.

Zoë’s story? It’s brutal, beautiful, and deeply human. From growing up in a cyclone of addiction, loss, mental illness, and family trauma—to healing her throat chakra and ditching the vape—Zoë holds nothing back. She’s a proud “Jesus freak,” a therapy regular, a former Twitter menace (“If you’re not trying to mate like an anglerfish, I’m not interested”), and a woman who’s seen the inside of hell and still sings in church. For real.

You’ll laugh. You’ll wince. You might cry. But mostly, you’ll feel like you just sat down with a friend who finally said all the shit you’ve been thinking. This is why Zoë belongs here—with us. With you. With this whole messed-up, miraculous community.

Oh, and she ghosted Jeff’s Facebook request. So there’s that.

• 00:00 Introduction to Pondoff's Anonymous and Sponsors
• 02:57 The Impact of Chewing Sounds and Misophonia
• 06:00 Zoe's Introduction and Her Unique Perspective
• 08:58 Zoe's Life Experiences and Challenges
• 12:07 Healing and Recovery: The Role of Vaping and Chakras
• 14:59 Zoe's Tour of Illinois Recovery Center
• 18:02 Transformational Journeys in Recovery
• 20:59 Navigating Online Interactions and Safety Concerns
• 21:43 The Impact of Social Media on Mental Health
• 24:41 Navigating Personal Relationships and Boundaries
• 27:11 Childhood Experiences and Family Dynamics
• 35:15 Understanding Trauma and Its Long-Term Effects
• 43:28 Friendship and Community Support
• 44:53 Launching a New Church Initiative
• 46:59 Mental Health Conversations
• 49:41 Navigating Family Dynamics
• 51:58 Loss and Grief
• 58:50 Life Changes and Adaptation
• 01:05:44 Navigating Digital Privacy and Parenting Challenges
• 01:08:13 The Impact of Show Choir on Personal Growth
• 01:09:52 Family Dynamics and Emotional Turmoil
• 01:12:37 The Journey to Adoption and Finding a New Family
• 01:15:30 Pursuing Education and Career Aspirations
• 01:18:00 The Role of Community in Healing and Support
• 01:20:38 The Importance of Empathy and Connection in Recovery

Sponsored by:
🛡️ McKelvey Insurance
🧠 LightSource Psychotherapy