Episodes

  • FLENA Conference Leigh McBean
    Apr 14 2026

    🎙️ “How do you pay legal fees… when all your money is tied up?”

    It’s a question most people don’t think about — until they’re in it. In this conversation with Leigh from JustFund, we unpack a hidden pressure point in family law and estates that impacts real people, every single day.


    💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀:

    ↳ The biggest issue isn’t always lack of assets — it’s lack of access to cash

    ↳ 75% of clients are women, often primary caregivers navigating financial vulnerability

    ↳ Executors, lawyers, and accountants are often carrying financial strain behind the scenes

    ↳ Delayed payments don’t just affect clients — they impact the entire professional ecosystem

    ↳ Providing funding options doesn’t just solve cash flow… it changes the quality of client conversations


    What stood out most?

    This isn’t about finance. It’s about reducing stress in moments people are already at their lowest — divorce, death, and everything in between.

    And sometimes, giving someone one more option is what keeps everything moving.

    If you work in family law, estates, or advise clients through these moments… this is worth a watch.


    #PeopleInLegal #LegalTech #FamilyLaw #Estates #AccessToJustice #LegalInnovation #Lawyers #Accounting #ClientExperience

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    14 mins
  • People in Legal Host Series: Tim Kenney
    Apr 14 2026

    🎙️ Expanding into the US legal tech market? It’s not a lift-and-shift. We’re excited to welcome Tim as a new host on People in Legal — bringing over 30 years of experience across legal tech, partnerships, and global go-to-market strategy. In this episode, Tim shares what most companies get wrong when entering new markets: 💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀: ↳ What works in the UK or Australia won’t simply translate to the US ↳ One deal doesn’t mean market traction ↳ Partnerships and OEM can unlock growth — if done right ↳ Messaging and market segmentation are everything


    #LegalTech #GoToMarket #USMarketEntry #SaaSSales #LegalInnovation #Partnerships #BusinessGrowth #MarketStrategy #PeopleInLegal


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    15 mins
  • The ROI of Showing Up: How to Master the Legal Conference Circuit
    Apr 10 2026

    What happens when a leading authority on value-based pricing gets frustrated in a pub? He builds a global platform for the legal industry in under six weeks. In this episode of the Law and Beyond Show, host Chantal McNaught sits down with Shaun Jardine, the "feathered" founder of Legal Gigs and author of Ditch the Billable Hour.

    Shaun shares the journey of mapping over 380 Business of Law events globally and explains why the traditional legal conference model is ripe for disruption. The conversation focuses on the strategic ROI of exhibiting, the rise of niche events (from legal wellness to desert horse riding), and why pluralistic platforms are the future of legal networking.


    Stick around for a deep dive into the "anatomy of a stand-up comedy" and a jazz recommendation that will change your background music game forever.


    Check out LegalGigz: https://legalgigz.com/ Shaun will also be a Keynote at the Legal Innovation and Tech Fest in Sydney on 28 and 29 April 2026 - Legal Innovation & Tech Fest Agenda

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    40 mins
  • Why you don't want to miss The LEGAL INNOVATION & TECH FEST 2026
    Apr 10 2026

    🎙️ 𝟮𝟴–𝟮𝟵 𝗔𝗽𝗿𝗶𝗹 — 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗶𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝗶𝗻𝗱𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗿𝘆 𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘀 𝘁𝗼𝗴𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿.

    The LEGAL INNOVATION & TECH FEST 𝗔𝘂𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗮 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟲 is just around the corner, bringing together legal professionals, tech leaders, and innovators across the industry.


    We caught up with Anna Turner ahead of the event to talk about what’s top of mind this year — 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝗔𝗜 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗲𝘃𝗼𝗹𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗽𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝗲𝗹𝘀 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗳𝘂𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗲 𝘀𝗸𝗶𝗹𝗹𝘀 𝗹𝗮𝘄𝘆𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗮𝗰𝘁𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗱.


    💡 Key points:

    ↳ AI is shifting from hype to real impact

    ↳ The way legal work is priced and delivered is changing

    ↳ Future lawyers need tech fluency + adaptability

    ↳ 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹 𝘃𝗮𝗹𝘂𝗲? 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗻𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀 𝗵𝗮𝗽𝗽𝗲𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗿𝗼𝗼𝗺


    People in Legal will be there as media partner — looking forward to seeing many of you on the ground!


    #PeopleInLegal #LegalTech #AIinLaw #LegalInnovation #FutureOfLaw #LegalEvents #LegalCommunity #Lawyers #TechInLaw

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    8 mins
  • FLENA Conference 🎙️ David Lisitsa
    Apr 10 2026

    🎙️ 𝗠𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗳𝗶𝗿𝗺𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲𝗻’𝘁 𝘀𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗴𝗴𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝗔𝗜. 𝗧𝗵𝗲𝘆’𝗿𝗲 𝘀𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗴𝗴𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘄𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗮𝗹𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗱𝘆 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲.

    At the Family Law Education Network Conference, David Woolstencroft sat down with David Lisitsa from NewLaw.com to talk about what’s actually happening inside law firms right now — beyond the AI headlines.


    💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀:

    ↳ Many firms are still running on 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗰𝘆 𝘀𝘆𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗺𝘀 that don’t integrate with modern workflows

    ↳ AI isn’t about replacing lawyers — it’s about 𝘀𝗼𝗹𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘀𝗺𝗮𝗹𝗹, 𝗽𝗿𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗹 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗯𝗹𝗲𝗺𝘀

    ↳ The biggest efficiency gains often sit with junior lawyers and support staff

    ↳ Poor 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗰𝗲𝘀𝘀𝗲𝘀 𝗱𝗼𝗻’𝘁 𝗱𝗶𝘀𝗮𝗽𝗽𝗲𝗮𝗿 — they get repeated for years

    ↳ Better systems don’t just improve output — they help 𝗿𝗲𝘁𝗮𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗮𝗹𝗲𝗻𝘁


    #PeopleInLegal #FLENA #LegalTech #AIinLaw #LawFirmEfficiency #LegalOperations #FutureOfLaw #LegalInnovation #Lawyers

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    13 mins
  • LawFest 2026 Dan Page
    Apr 6 2026

    🎙️ Still spending hours manually preparing court bundles?

    There’s a better way.


    At People in Legal, we sat down with Dan Page from Bundledocs at LawFest 26 to unpack how document bundling is quietly transforming legal workflows.

    Because in law… time isn’t just money.
    It’s margin, capacity, and client experience.

    💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀:

    ↳ Document bundling doesn’t need to be manual — automation can save hours per matter
    ↳ Efficiency gains aren’t just operational, they directly impact profitability
    ↳ Integration with existing legal tech stacks is key to seamless workflows
    ↳ Innovation is continuous — not a one-off feature drop
    ↳ The future? AI will likely play a role… but the fundamentals still matter


    #PeopleInLegal #LegalTech #DocumentAutomation #LegalInnovation #LawFirmEfficiency #APACLegal #LegalOperations #WorkflowAutomation #FutureOfLaw


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    4 mins
  • Why This Mediator Wears a Hoodie with Ryan McLaughlin
    Apr 2 2026

    “The incentive structure rewards conflict, not resolution.”In this episode of the Law and Beyond Show on People in Legal, Chantal McNaught engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Ryan McLaughlin, founder of Flannel People Mediation.

    Ryan shares his journey from traditional law practice to establishing a human-centered mediation approach, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and empathy in navigating divorce disputes. He discusses how his practice aims to alleviate the adversarial nature of traditional litigation, focusing instead on helping clients achieve amicable resolutions while maintaining their dignity and financial stability.

    The conversation also touches on the challenges lawyers face in understanding client needs and the evolving landscape of legal practice, particularly in the context of mediation.


    Takeaways


    'I want to deliver a result, which in this case is solving a conflict.'

    'Divorce is not a happy, lovely, wonderful time.'

    'We all want to feel that way and we want to spend our money where we're treated that way.'

    'There's no failed mediation if you guys walk out of here and you're in total disagreement.'

    'How do we be more than just naively hopeful or kind of passively hopeful?'


    Chapters


    00:00 Introduction to Flannel People Mediation

    02:47 Defining Human-Centered Mediation

    06:32 Understanding Client Needs in Mediation

    10:52 Lawyers' Expectations and Mediation Challenges

    15:44 Innovative Approaches in Mediation

    19:20 Lawyers as Mercenaries: A Critical Perspective

    23:30 The Intersection of Law and Technology

    27:52 Gratitude and Living with Purpose


    Check out Ryan's work at Flannel People Mediation

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    32 mins
  • LawFest 2026 David Whiting
    Apr 1 2026

    🎙️ 𝗕𝗲𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗚𝗼𝗼𝗴𝗹𝗲. 𝗕𝗲𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗔𝗜. 𝗣𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲 𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗿𝗮𝗱𝗶𝗼 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝗮𝗱𝘃𝗶𝗰𝗲.

    At LawFest 2026, we spoke with David Whiting the Principal of Whiting Lawyers — who’s spent 30+ years answering real legal questions from real people.Different era. Same core problem:People don’t just want answers… they want 𝘁𝗿𝘂𝘀𝘁.

    💡 𝗞𝗲𝘆 𝘁𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀:

    ↳ The best lawyers are still found through personal referrals, not search results

    ↳ AI is powerful, but it often misreads nuance in legal questions

    ↳ The profession is becoming more complex and litigious over time

    ↳ Strong lawyers balance being generalists and specialists

    ↳ The future belongs to those who can adapt to change, not fight it


    #PeopleInLegal #LawFest2026 #LegalProfession #LegalTech #AIinLaw #FutureOfLaw #Lawyers #LegalCareers #Networking

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    9 mins