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People in Legal

People in Legal

By: People in Legal Chantal McNaught David Woolstencroft
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“People in Legal: Stories and Insights from the Human Side of the Legal Tech Industry." Join us as we explore the personal journeys, challenges, and triumphs of professionals in law, legal tech, education, and academia. Each episode features candid conversations with industry experts, sharing their unique career paths and growth stories. We'll uncover tales of resilience, mentorship, ethical dilemmas, and career-defining moments. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just curious about the field, “People in Legal” offers inspiration and insights for everyone.People in Legal, Chantal McNaught, David Woolstencroft Economics
Episodes
  • INSPIRE 2025 - Dan Hauck
    Jan 8 2026

    In this conversation, Dan discusses the latest innovations at NetDocuments, focusing on AI enhancements in document management, including semantic search capabilities, the introduction of MD Connect for third-party integrations, and the future roadmap for collaboration tools. The discussion highlights how these advancements are transforming workflows in law firms and improving client service.


    Chapters

    00:00Introduction and Overview of NetDocuments' Innovations

    02:48AI Advancements in Document Management

    05:43Semantic Search and User Experience

    08:22MD Connect: Enhancing Workflow Integration

    10:48AI Profiling and Client Service Improvements

    13:48Future Roadmap and Collaboration Tools

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    15 mins
  • The Legal Universe, AI, and Keeping Calm Under Pressure
    Jan 1 2026

    In this special episode of the People in Legal – Law and Beyond Podcast, host Chantal McNaught sits down with her friend and future lawyer Rhonda McGrath for an unfiltered conversation about life at the intersection of law, technology, and learning.

    From stumbling into a career in legal tech to grappling with trust accounting, Rhonda shares her candid experiences as a law student, her insights into AI’s role in the legal profession, and why lawyers need to stay mindful of over-relying on technology.

    Together, Chantal and Rhonda unpack:

    • How “lizard brain mode” shows up in legal practice 👀
    • Why legal tech can be both intimidating and empowering 💻
    • The ethics and risks of AI in law ⚖️
    • The importance of slowing down, thinking critically, and finding balance 🌱
    • Plus, a fun segment on irrational fears

    👉 Whether you’re a lawyer, law student, or just curious about the real human side of the legal profession, this episode offers honesty, laughs, and practical takeaways.

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    32 mins
  • The Lawyer–Technologist: Yule Guttenbeil on Scaling Smarter, Not Harder
    Dec 25 2025

    What happens when a commercial lawyer stops trying to "look like a lawyer" and starts building the future of the legal industry instead?

    In this episode, we’re hanging out with Yule Guttenbeil—the award-winning principal of Attune Legal and a self-described "multi-entrepreneur." Yule isn't just practising law, he’s building communities, coworking spaces, and software platforms using something called "Vibe Coding."

    In this episode, we’re diving into:

    🤖 The "Vibe Coding" Revolution: How Yule is building custom software for the Lex Nova Guild without being a "coder" (and why you can do it too).

    ⛏️ Following the Frustration: Why your biggest daily annoyances are actually a roadmap for your next big system or tech tool.

    🤵 Shedding the "Big Law" Skin: Why the suit and the facade might be holding your solo practice back from finding its true tribe.

    💸 Decoupling Time from Value: Why Yule thinks billing by the hour is "grotesque" and how he’s flipped the script to focus on results instead of the clock.

    🏋️ The Powerlifting Connection: A reminder that lawyers are whole people with lives, hobbies, and gym memberships outside of the office.

    👉 Whether you’re a solo practitioner feeling the "lonely" part of the job, or a tech-curious lawyer wondering if AI can actually build your dream app, Yule’s insights will help you work smarter, think bigger, and finally clear that inbox.

    Stick around for the bonus segment (this will be published later!): We’ve carved out a special deep-dive where Yule explains the exact platform he’s building and how "vibe coding" actually works in the real world.

    Connect with the Show:

    • Host: Chantal McNaught (Author of the Fully Automated Luxury Lawyer newsletter)
    • Guest: Yule Guttenbeil (Attune Legal / Lex Nova Guild)

    Don't be a stranger! If you enjoyed this trip into the expanding legal universe, leave us a review. It helps other legal rebels find the show. 🚀

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    33 mins
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