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PANS/PANDAS STORIES

PANS/PANDAS STORIES

By: Jo Joyner and Lucy McDonald
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Welcome to The PANS/PANDAS Stories. In the first series, actor and charity campaigner Jo Joyner, and child counsellor and journalist, Lucy McDonald, meet children and families affected by this neuropsychiatric disorder. They also interview experts at the cutting edge of treatment. Awareness is growing, and the pair hope this podcast will offer hope and support to sufferers as they navigate an often long and complicated road to recovery. Disclaimer - Episodes can contain upsetting themes. It does not replace medical advice.Jo Joyner and Lucy McDonald Hygiene & Healthy Living Psychology Psychology & Mental Health
Episodes
  • A Story of Hope - 19yo Freya talks about recovering from PANS PANDAS
    Dec 5 2025

    In this episode of PansPandas Stories, host Lucy McDonald interviews Freya Shacklock, a 19-year-old who shares her inspiring journey of recovery from PANS-PANDAS, a condition that caused her severe mental health challenges and physical symptoms from a young age.

    Freya discusses the importance of family support, the challenges of navigating treatment, and the hope that comes with finding the right diagnosis. She emphasises the importance of therapy and the ongoing journey of recovery, encouraging others to hold onto hope for a brighter future.

    She talks about gettig her first job with the doctor who diagnosed her, Tim Ubhi.

    DISCLAIMER! I work with Dr Ubhi too, and met Freya through the clinic. Her comments about her diagnosis and treatment, are all her own, and a testament to the trust and support, she feels to those who helped her heal.

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    51 mins
  • Interview with Dr Kiki Chang on flares, SSRIs, therapy and not giving up
    Nov 17 2025

    It has been a while since the last PANS PANDAS Stories and our return is marked by an interesting chat with Dr Kiki Chang. He has a long PP pedigree and now works privately in the States where he has been instrumental in treating children and advocating for the illness - both nationally and internationally.

    He discussed what NOT to do in a flare, the power of therapy and working with families and, most of all, not giving up.

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    49 mins
  • Lucy from Instagram's Parenting_PANDAS talks about her family's journey
    Dec 19 2024

    In the last episode of the year, we talked to Lucy from Parenting_PANDAS on Instagram. Lucy shares her story with her 10,000-strong community, charting the hope and despair of life as a PANDAS parent. Originally posting about Pathological Demand Avoidance, she did not consider the diagnosis until one of her followers suggested PANDAS. Sadly, this is not an uncommon route to diagnosis! Since then, her daughter has had antibiotic treatment and is bumpily recovering.

    It is a testament to her passion for raising awareness that Lucy manages to post about her family's journey, offering support, parenting hacks (dopamine bag, anyone?!), and hope for PANS/PANDAS parents worldwide.

    Her insights and commitment are a wonder, and we are thrilled she is on this week’s PANS/PANDAS Stories.

    As always, please like and share the podcast to raise awareness.

    Happy Christmas and 2025, everyone!

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    37 mins
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