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No Such Thing as Normal

No Such Thing as Normal

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At least 20% of New Zealanders are believed to be neurodivergent, but there is very little awareness, understanding and support for people with conditions such as ADHD, Autism and Dyslexia.

Sonia Gray has a neurodivergent daughter and is an ADHDer herself. In this 10-part series she’ll talk to dozens of experts and people with a lived-experience of neurodiversity to better understand how we can support and celebrate those whose brains are wired differently.

No Such Thing as Normal is brought to you by NZ Herald and Team Uniform, with support from NZ on Air and launches June 10th. New episodes are available every Saturday.

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  • ADHD medication - Is is safe? Is it effective?
    Feb 27 2026

    ADHD stimulant medication use is rising in New Zealand, but questions about safety and side effects remain - as does the stigma surrounding these meds.

    In the first episode of Season three, Sonia Gray explores what ADHD medication actually does - and what it doesn’t. You’ll hear 11-year-old Tilly take her morning pill and describe, in real time, how it changes the way she feels.

    Sonia also speaks with Professor Dave Coghill about how stimulant medication works. Dave addresses some common concerns around safety and effectiveness, and explains what a comprehensive medication trial should involve.

    Medication isn’t the only treatment for ADHD. But for many, it can be life-changing.

    Note: This episode is for educational purposes only and does not replace personalised medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional about treatment decisions.

    Guests:
    Professor Dave Coghill
    Tilly and Bex

    Resources: ADHD NZ

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    44 mins
  • Episode 23: The mystery of Tourette’s syndrome
    Nov 1 2024

    We all know what Tourette’s is - or we think we do. But this is a condition that is largely misunderstood and routinely misrepresented. Only around 10% of those with Tourette’s syndrome have the ‘swearing tic’ - coprolalia. But the other vocal and motor tics can be just as debilitating.

    In this episode, Sonia speaks to Tiktok sensation, Leighton Clarke - aka Uncle Tics. He now embraces his Tourette’s and encourages others to do the same.

    We also hear from Fyfe, a bubbly and creative 10-year-old. Her mother Amanda describes Fyfe’s journey - from the occasional tic, to a diagnosis of Tourette’s syndrome.

    And clinical psychologist, Hilary Mack, talks about the connection between Tourette’s Syndrome, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and ADHD.

    Guests:
    Leighton Clarke (Uncle Tics) Tiktok
    Fyfe and Amanda
    Hilary Mack Hilary Mack Psychology

    Resources: Tourette’s Association of NZ

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    31 mins
  • Episode 22: The Spiral of Shame
    Oct 25 2024

    A diagnosis of ADHD, autism or dyslexia is merely an indication that your brain works in a different - and exciting - way.

    So why are the rates of co-occurring anxiety and depression so high for neurodivergent people?

    In this episode, Sonia talks to 16-year-old Emily Martin, who has ADHD, dyslexia and dyscalculia. Emily suffered from intense anxiety and low self-esteem throughout her primary school years.

    Therapist Jane Kjersten explains the specific type of trauma that can come from feeling ‘lesser than’, and suggests ways to heal from the emotional pain.

    Guests:
    Emily and Jo Martin
    Jane Kjersten Jane Kjersten Therapist

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    29 mins
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As a mother of a newly discovered neural atypical… this podcast has been an absolute blessing. Everything I have read up on so far has been American or UK based… it’s so refreshing to hear something relevant to NZ. I’m up to series 3 and I will be eagerly awaiting every episode. Thank you so much!.. keep on doing what you are doing x

Thank You Sonya!

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