“There are some very universal pieces of armor that we all wear: foreboding joy, perfectionism, and numbing.” — Brené Brown

In this episode of The Wholehearted Series, we explore what it means to cultivate a resilient spirit—a key guidepost in living a wholehearted life. At the heart of this guidepost is a liberating invitation: let go of numbing and powerlessness.

Many of us have learned to disconnect from pain through busyness, perfectionism, or emotional shutdown. But numbing doesn’t just protect us from discomfort—it dulls our capacity for joy, creativity, love, and connection. In this episode, we unpack how to shift from powerlessness to purpose, and how resilience is less about pushing through, and more about recovering well, choosing hope, and staying connected to what makes us feel alive.

You’ll hear:

• The five traits resilient people have in common
• Why hope is not an emotion but a way of thinking (thanks to Dr. C.R. Snyder’s research)
• The role of spirituality, storytelling, and recovery seasons in building inner strength
• What it means to reclaim power when trauma has shaped your nervous system’s default
• How I personally wrestled with powerlessness, and how nervous system awareness became a turning point
• The truth about numbing: why it’s not neutral, and how it slowly distances us from our fullest selves

Whether you’re healing from burnout, living through a hard season, or learning how to show up for yourself with more compassion, this episode will meet you where you are—with insight, encouragement, and the reminder that you’re not alone.

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In this transformative conversation, I’m joined by Dr. Margaret Nagib — clinical psychologist and spiritual development coach — to explore the vital role of the nervous system in both our emotional and spiritual health. Dr. Margaret unpacks how the nervous system forms the foundation for every area of life and why tending to it is essential for true balance and wholeness.

We dive into how psychology and faith intersect, the dangers of spiritual bypassing, and why clarity is so important in your spiritual journey. You’ll learn practical tools for regulating your nervous system, building capacity for emotional experiences, and aligning your desires with your deeper purpose. This episode is an invitation to move beyond survival mode into a life marked by peace, presence, and authentic growth.

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In this episode, I talk with Donna Winship about identity, belonging, and what it really means to hear God’s voice. Donna shares her journey from growing up in a Jewish community, to wrestling with big questions about God, to ultimately discovering a new identity through Jesus.

We dive into her life with Jamie Winship—from his career in law enforcement to their years in high-conflict zones—and the surprising ways God showed up, even drawing the attention of the CIA. Donna unpacks how God speaks (always with love, never with condemnation), and how encountering Him transforms the way we see ourselves and others.

This is a conversation about identity, connection, and the freedom of living fully as who God says we are.

Donna Winship is a speaker, teacher, and co-founder of Identity Exchange. Alongside her husband, Jamie Winship, she has dedicated her life to helping others discover their true identity and live fearlessly. https://www.identityexchange.com/