Finding Practical Solutions in the Face of Chaos

In this episode of Navigating Your Path, Duane is joined by Kyle Rodino for a real and candid conversation about how Kyle’s path in clinical microbiology came together: starting with growing up in coastal Connecticut, getting hooked on science through great teachers and hands-on projects, and learning people skills early through peer mediation in high school. Kyle talks about heading to UNC Chapel Hill, realizing the pre-med track wasn’t for him, and taking a chance by cold-emailing Dr. Peter Gilligan—an email that turned into lab research, switching into medical laboratory science, and several years working the bench in the UNC Hospitals micro lab. He shares what that bench time taught him about workflow, rolling out new tests, and building strong communication with clinical teams through the Lab Ambassador Program. From there, Kyle walks through grad school at VCU and his fellowship at Mayo Clinic, where he learned what lab leadership really looks like by watching great directors in action. They also dig into hard work vs. “luck,” what motivates different people, and building his academic portfolio by publishing “the practical solutions developed in the face of chaos.”

00:00 Check In

03:10 Growing Up New England

05:08 Science Sparks Early

09:17 Peer Mediation Lessons

12:54 Mentors Who Shaped Me

15:25 UNC And Life Balance

17:46 Leaving The Pre Med Track

27:57 Working The Micro Bench

33:28 Lab Ambassador Insights

40:03 Grad School Next Steps

43:47 Building A Grad School Toolbox

47:01 Independence And Staying Motivated

51:54 Hard Work Creates Luck

58:52 Leading Through Different Motivations

01:09:22 Fellowship Lessons At Mayo

01:12:18 Crafting An Academic Story

01:25:10 Advice To Younger Self

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From Rural Roots to Global Impact: Leadership, Imperfection, and the Future of Lab Medicine

In this episode of Navigating Your Path, Duane talks with John Osiecki, PhD, Vice President of Medical Affairs with bioMérieux. John details his “origin story” growing up in rural Missouri, describing his curiosity-driven path into science, and their shared experiences with Marilyn Menegus as a mentor. John shares formative leadership lessons from a high school coach, how those experiences shaped his parenting and views on confidence, failure, and integrity, and discusses the challenges of perfectionism in healthcare. Their conversation further explores a variety of diverse topics (enhanced my John’s extensive library) including servant leadership, accountability, strategic planning, empowering teams, debriefing, and emerging AI’s transformative potential in diagnostics and healthcare. A listing of the works discussed in the interview is provided below.

00:00 Warm Welcome and Updates
01:53 Fellowship Years and Old Friends
03:43 Growing Up Rural Midwest
06:09 College and Grad School Path
08:04 Coach Trip Leadership Lessons
14:38 Parenting and Confidence
20:21 Broken Piano Mindset
25:18 Perfectionism and Excellence
31:36 Choosing Industry After Fellowship
35:33 Mentors and Steppingstones
41:21 Servant Leadership and Accountability
43:23 Diet Coke Accountability
47:54 Leading Complex Teams
50:28 Empower Decision Making
53:41 Managing Failure Risk
55:47 Psychological Safety
01:01:11 Debriefs and Communication
01:04:22 Strategic Planning Maturity
01:08:12 Onboarding and All In
01:13:38 AI Future in Healthcare
01:22:27 Good Timber

Reading list from this episode:
The Gifts of Imperfection, book by Brené Brown
A Bag of Tools, poem by R. L. Sharpe
The Question Behind the Question, book by John G. Miller
Reinventing Organizations, book by Fredric Laloux
All In: How Great Leaders Build Unstoppable Teams, book by Mike Michalowicz
The Coming Wave, book by Mustafa Suleyman
Good Timber, poem by Douglas Malloch

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Public Health Forever: Marie-Claire Rowlinson and her Passion for Exploration, Adventure, and Public Health

Duane chats with Marie-Claire Rowlinson about their connection since the First Coast meeting in Jacksonville (January 2024) and her career path from growing up in London to public health microbiology. She describes being guided into microbiology by a teacher, studying medical microbiology at the University of Newcastle, and earning a PhD in molecular parasitology at the University of Nottingham with field work in Cameroon. Marie-Claire shares how zest for exploration and interest in public health were influenced by experiences in Tanzania, Namibia, and films like Outbreak and Contagion. Realizing basic research didn’t fit, she found ASM’s CPEP fellowship programs via Google – training at UCLA where she was mentored by figures including Dave Bruckner, Janet Hindler, Ed Desmond, Sid Feingold, and Max Salfinger, relationships that sparking her interest in TB and steered her into public health lab leadership. She discusses global lab capacity work at APHL, public health funding realities, imposter syndrome and perfectionism, and her recent pivot into industry at bioMérieux while keeping public health central.

00:00 First Coast Connection

03:26 London Roots and Science Spark

04:39 Teachers and Choosing Microbiology

10:27 Tanzania Trip and Outbreak Movies

13:31 Leaving London then Leaving Basic Science

19:22 Googling into CPEP and UCLA Highlights

27:21 Mentors Who Shaped Her

32:54 Post Fellowship Winding Road

38:11 Imposter Syndrome and Perfectionism

45:53 Global Health Spark

47:48 Africa Fieldwork Lessons

50:59 APHL To Lab Director

57:31 TB Mentors and Meaning

59:12 Giving Back Mentorship

01:05:37 Why Public Health Labs

01:07:36 Funding, Politics, & Pressures

01:13:10 Pivot into Industry and Staying Authentic

01:29:08 Public Health Forever

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The Data Is the Data: Linoj Samuel’s Journey Through War and Uncertainty to Leadership in Microbiology

In this episode, Duane has a conversation with Dr. Linoj Samuel, Division Head of Microbiology at Henry Ford Health in Detroit. Linoj shares his personal and professional journey, from growing up in Kuwait as an Indian expatriate to experiencing the First Gulf War, fleeing through Iraq to a refugee camp in Jordan, and later adapting to life in India before returning to Kuwait. Linoj describes how early curiosity about outbreaks led him to study medical microbiology, pursue graduate training in the U.S., and complete a PhD focused on tuberculosis while witnessing the realities of basic science funding. He explains how discovering ASM CPEP programs led to fellowship training at the University of Rochester with Marilyn Menegus, whose mentorship emphasized curiosity and patient-centered work. Linoj discusses a variety of challenges he’s faced (transitioning from fellow to director, imposter syndrome, lab consolidations) as well as his ability to build a psychologically safe workspace, while staying grounded and connected. Importantly, Linoj stresses the importance of clinical and scientific information driving decision-making, leaning into the Dr. Menegus’ saying, “The Data is the Data.”

0:00 Setting the Stage

3:45 Origin Story in Kuwait

6:00 Refugee Camp Lessons

12:44 Microbiology Path Begins

15:15 Finding the CPEP Fellowship

17:45 Mentorship Memories

19:58 Imposter Syndrome and Setbacks

25:11 Serving the Profession

33:18 From Fellow To Director

37:35 Building Psychological Safety

40:25 What’s Next In Career

46:14 Industry And The Future

49:53 Advice To Younger Self

52:39 The Data Is The Data

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Finding Your Path in Clinical Microbiology: Dr. Ken Gavina on Mentorship, Saying No, and Building a Career

In this episode of Navigating Your Path, Duane talks with Dr. Ken Gavina, Medical Director of Clinical Microbiology and Serology at Eskenazi Health, and Assistant Professor at the Indiana University School of Medicine, about his path from Winnipeg to U.S. clinical lab leadership. Ken describes undergraduate research at Canada’s National Microbiology Laboratory, PhD work in malaria diagnostics for low-resource settings, pivots through industry and a molecular diagnostics postdoc, and how COVID-19 work on high-throughput SARS-CoV-2 testing led him to a CPEP fellowship at Indiana University and an attending role in Indiana. He explains earning ASCP certifications during fellowship to better understand bench workflows and build credibility and shares how coaching and teaching shaped his mentoring style. Duane and Ken discuss Ken’s use of the Kirkpatrick Model of education, and reflect on choosing professional-society roles, learning to say no, and embracing mistakes to grow.

00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro

03:30 First Meeting Story

05:17 Canada Roots and Early Research

06:24 PhD and Training Detours

09:10 COVID Testing and CPEP Choice

13:19 ASCP Certification During Fellowship

21:49 Teaching and Coaching Passion

26:15 Engagement and Kirkpatrick Model

32:32 Mentorship and Authenticity

39:38 Choosing What Matters

42:20 Networking Beyond Extroversion

47:34 Strategic “No” Decisions

49:25 Guilt, Fear, and Boundaries

52:10 When Yes Backfires

55:28 Self Awareness Guideposts

59:42 Next Level CV Building

01:02:22 Shiny Offers and Capacity

01:07:15 Advice to Younger Self

01:09:40 Embrace the Struggle

01:18:52 Closing

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Trailblazing a Path from Bench Tech to Division Chief: Dr. Donna Wolk on Trusting Yourself, Building a Career, and Giving Grace

In this episode, Duane talks with Dr. Donna Wolk, Division Chief of Molecular and Microbial Diagnostics and Development at Geisinger Health System. Donna discusses her unconventional career path from bench technologist to PhD, CPEP fellowship at Mayo Clinic, leadership roles in Arizona, and return to Pennsylvania. She also describes being a first-generation college graduate and single parent, making career decisions driven by survival, patient-care impact, and a desire to stay in science, including a pivotal health discovery that relieved her back pain in the Arizona desert and influenced her move to the University of Arizona. Donna discusses learning to plan ahead, secure resources for microbiology through research and grants, navigate difficult workplace dynamics, and separate personal identity from job roles. Duane and Donna reflect on mentorship, intuition, giving oneself grace, and lessons from The Four Agreements and Think Again as she approaches succession planning and retirement.

00:00 Welcome

01:10 Boards Exam Memories

03:08 From Bench to PhD

04:44 Single Mom Leap of Faith

07:48 Desert Healing Turning Point

09:58 First Gen Career Reflections

12:19 Choosing Mayo Fellowship

14:40 Hawaii Wake Up Call

17:37 Building Research Muscle

21:56 Lessons and Paying Attention

24:48 Quotes Humility and Intuition

34:17 Roots, Role Models, and Penn State

38:56 Blue Collar Funding Reality

40:38 Proving Them Wrong

42:56 No One Will Save You

48:47 Finding Your Fit

52:25 Values Over Titles

54:37 North Star, Not Employer

58:14 Advocacy and Negotiation

01:05:56 Advice to Younger Self

01:13:33 Four Agreements Lessons

01:22:26 Closing

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From Military Brat to Lab Leader: Dr. Beth Marlowe on Community, Mentorship, and Leading Through Adversity

In this episode, Duane interviews his longtime friend Dr. Beth Marlowe, Executive Scientific Director for Infectious Diseases at Quest Diagnostics, about how their military-family upbringings shaped resilience, perspective, and a drive to build community. Beth recounts her father’s Vietnam service and her rural roots in Blythe, California, emphasizing community values, patient advocacy, and remembering where you came from. She traces her path from early dreams of being an astronaut to environmental microbiology at the University of Arizona, highlighting mentors and interdisciplinary training. They discuss mentorship as a “personal board of directors,” the value of travel and diverse perspectives, and Beth endorses the need for lab leaders to develop business and communication skills. She describes how joining Quest shortly before COVID strengthened her leadership through visibility, teamwork, psychological safety, and rapid decision-making under scrutiny.

00:00 Welcome

04:50 Happy Hour Community Vibes

09:12 Military Brat Roots

12:32 Blythe and Giving Back

19:45 Germany and Growing Up Abroad

26:43 From Astronaut Dreams to Micro

31:44 Grad School Mentors and Hawaii

38:45 Interdisciplinary Skills That Stick

41:53 Mentorship and Personal Board

46:18 Women in Leadership

49:37 Business Skills Gap

55:41 Travel and Perspective

01:00:05 Advice to Younger Self

01:09:22 Leading Through COVID

01:13:30 Psychological Safety

01:20:06 Community and Wrap Up

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Host Duane Newton continues his story of feeling miserable and out of his element as a lab director and explains his “Five Steps to Becoming Your Authentic Self.” Through self-reflection, assistance from his wayfinders, and a lot of intentional work, he identified the steps that have been critical for him as he has identified and navigated his authentic path: (1) get out of your head and into your heart, (2) connect with trusted people, (3) trust your intuition, (4) take risks to grow, and (5) enjoy the journey through ongoing alignment and regular realignment.

00:00 Welcome Back: Part 2 & the Five Steps to Authenticity

01:06 Step 1 — Get Out of Your Head and Into Your Heart (Recognizing Misalignment)

03:22 Step 2 — Connect With Trusted People (Wayfinders, Therapy & Coaching)

08:43 Step 3 — Trust Your Intuition (Your Body’s Signals Know the Way)

12:07 Step 4 — Take Risks (Growth Starts Outside the Comfort Zone)

13:45 Risk Story: Learning Triathlon & the Power of Small Wins

19:44 Step 5 — Enjoy the Journey (Alignment Over Outcomes)

22:11 Final Takeaways, Leadership Impact & How to Connect

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