Episodes

  • What No One Tells You About Leaving Your Own Company w/Cody Hofhine

    What No One Tells You About Leaving Your Own Company w/Cody Hofhine
    Aug 14 2025

    You built your business from scratch and poured your heart and soul into it. So it might feel strange, even disloyal, to think about stepping away or exiting.

    From the outside, everything’s working: sales are up, your team’s solid, and your brand is gaining traction. But under the surface? You’re tired, the vision that once felt clear now feels fuzzy, and growth has started to feel like a grind.

    This isn’t uncommon. Many founders hesitate to plan an exit because things still feel “fine.” But there’s a big difference between “fine” and truly free.

    Founders leave their businesses for all kinds of reasons, burnout, shifting goals, evolving partnerships, or simply growing beyond what they once built.

    The biggest misstep is waiting until things fall apart to start thinking about what’s next.

    How do you build with the exit in mind?

    In this episode, I’m joined by Cody Hofhine, the founder of Utah Sell Now, Texas Sell Now, and Joe Homebuyer. As a business owner who has exited four companies, he has a lot to share about what worked, what didn’t, and what every founder should consider before making their move.

    Things You’ll Learn In This Episode

    -Having the right mentors

    Learning from mentors who have already achieved your goals provides proven guidance and shortcuts to success. How can following someone who’s already succeeded save you time and prevent common mistakes?

    -Invest in yourself

    Investing in yourself is the most important step because you are the driving force behind your own success. How are you prioritizing your personal growth to create the impact you want in your life?

    -Quit linear thinking

    Embracing non-linear, audacious thinking can spark breakthroughs beyond conventional limits. What bold goal would you pursue if you stopped following the usual rules?



    Guest Bio

    Cody Hofhine is a multiple Inc. 5000 business owner, real estate investor/mentor, and sought-after Speaker. He is the co-founder of Wholesaling Inc., the #1 Real Estate coaching program across the nation, and Joe Homebuyer, the leading Real Estate Franchise. Cody has coached over 3000 students on how to successfully build their Real Estate Business through his real estate training, as well as help individuals perform at their highest levels with his one-on-one mentoring. Cody used his background in sales to quickly build multiple 7 and 8-figure real estate businesses that all start on the foundation of clarity or vision and purpose.

    Visit https://joehomebuyerfranchising.com/

    Visit https://codyhofhine.com/

    Follow Cody on Instagram @codyhofhine

    Look out for the Cody Holfine podcast launching August 4th, and stay tuned for the Chris Naugle episode!

    About Your Host

    From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently the founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier.

    His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works.

    Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.

    Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!

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    42 mins
  • How to Beat the Insurance Companies at Their Own Game w/ Rob Haynie

    How to Beat the Insurance Companies at Their Own Game w/ Rob Haynie
    Aug 7 2025
    Here’s the dirty secret in the term insurance industry: They win when you cancel. They win when your policy lapses. They win when you don’t understand what you really own. Think about that for a second. You’ve been sold on the idea that term insurance is the smart, affordable choice. But what no one tells you is this: it’s a ticking clock. If you outlive the term, you get nothing. All those years of paying in? Gone. Just like that. Who wins? The insurance companies. Every. Single. Time. They count on you to drop it. They bank on you not knowing any better. But what if you flipped the script? What if you could turn the tides and make term insurance work for YOU? What if you could unlock hidden value in your policy before it vanishes? Because the truth is that you can. There are strategies the wealthy use to extract value from term policies that most people surrender without a second thought. Rob Haynie, Managing Director at Life Insurance Settlements, Inc., joins me in this episode to expose the hidden greed within the insurance industry. We dive into how millions are misled when it comes to term life insurance. More importantly, we reveal how you can flip the script and use your policy to your advantage instead of getting taken for a ride. Things You’ll Learn In This Episode -Do more than just surrender Most people with term insurance don’t realize there are alternatives to surrendering their policy. What if you could unlock hidden value from your term policy instead of just walking away from it? -Slow economy surrender In a slowing economy, many are surrendering their life insurance policies without realizing they may have better options. What are the other things you can do? -Optimizing assets Term insurance can be treated as an asset, just like your home, because you own it. If your term policy is an asset, are you making the most of its hidden value? Guest Bio Rob Haynie is the Managing Director and one of the founding partners of Life Insurance Settlements, Inc. (LIS), a leading life settlement brokerage based in Pompano Beach, Florida. With over 31 years of experience in the industry, Haynie has been instrumental in shaping the life settlement market, advocating for the value of life insurance as an asset class, and educating financial professionals and policyholders about settlement options. Throughout his career, Haynie has been directly involved in negotiating and settling thousands of life insurance policies, earning a reputation as one of the most influential figures in the field. He has served multiple terms on the Board of Directors of the Life Insurance Settlement Association (LISA) and has been a charter member of its Public Policy Committee, which focuses on regulatory and legislative activities within the industry. Haynie is a frequent speaker at industry events and has co-hosted the podcast Unlocking the Hidden Value of Your Life Insurance, where he discusses the benefits and intricacies of life settlements. Call Rob on 954-599-4433 Email Rob rob@lisettlements.com Find Rob on LinkedIn @Rob Haynie About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is the founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom. Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!
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    46 mins
  • Why So Many Real Estate Investors Are Burnt Out w/ Ashley Kehr

    Why So Many Real Estate Investors Are Burnt Out w/ Ashley Kehr
    Jul 31 2025
    Feeling burnt out? You’re not the only investor hitting that wall. Long hours, back-to-back deals, tenants, contractors, financing, and the never-ending pressure to grow. You got into real estate for time freedom and financial independence, but somewhere along the way, it started to feel like just another grind. Here’s the truth most investors won’t say out loud: Burnout isn’t a rite of passage, it’s a red flag. And ignoring it can cost you more than just momentum; it can eat away at your health, relationships, and your reason for investing in the first place. But what if there’s another way to build wealth? A shift from burnout to balance. It’s not about more doors, bigger portfolios, or chasing status. It’s about designing a real estate business that gives you the life you actually want. In this episode, I’m joined by Ashley Kehr, a rental property investor and co-host of the BiggerPockets Real Estate Rookie Podcast. She shares her journey of stepping off the hamster wheel and into a simpler, more powerful version of success. One built around freedom, clarity, and sustainability. Things You’ll Learn In This Episode -Opportunities in real estate investing Real estate investing can offer more than financial security; it can create freedom, flexibility, and a lifestyle on your terms. What other opportunities can real estate investing open up? -Shiny object syndrome New entrepreneurs and investors often fall into the trap of chasing trendy opportunities instead of staying focused on proven strategies. How do we focus on moving the needle instead of the next big thing? -Build a firm foundation Start by leveraging your strengths and skills, then pursue your passions once you've established a solid foundation. How can focusing on current strengths pave the way for achieving long-term goals? Guest Bio Ashley Kehr is the co-host of the Real Estate Rookie Podcast. Just a few years removed from being a beginner herself, Ashley is now helping newbies figure out actionable steps to get their first deal. She has a dual degree in finance and public accounting and recently became a licensed insurance agent. Ashley purchased her first rental property in 2014 and, since then, has grown her buy-and-hold portfolio to over 30 units. She has experience in residential and commercial properties. She attributes much of her success to the use of partners on several real estate deals and creative financing. Ashley developed a passion for real estate after quitting her staff accountant job to work as a property manager. Within several years, she had created two property management companies, which she ran for over five years. Her specialty was creating systems to work efficiently and remotely within companies. Currently, Ashley outsources property management and spends her time educating new investors and finding deals to BRRRR. Visit https://www.biggerpockets.com/ Be a guest on the BiggerPockets Real Estate Rookie Podcast https://airtable.com/appnZ2AGUknfciOzu/pagvbFaEPNprDBVKi/form Listen to the BiggerPockets Real Estate Rookie Podcast here https://www.biggerpockets.com/podcasts/real-estate-rookie Follow Ashley on Instagram @wealthfromrentals Visit https://www.ashleykehr.com/ About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom. Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!
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    37 mins
  • This ONE Mindset Shift Will Change How You Think About Success w/ Taylor Clark

    This ONE Mindset Shift Will Change How You Think About Success w/ Taylor Clark
    Jul 17 2025
    You’re out in the real world, trying to “figure it out,” but instead, you feel lost, stuck. Everyone told you that once you got the degree, the path would appear. But here you are, overwhelmed, second-guessing, and unsure where to even begin. It’s exhausting. You’re watching others seemingly take off while you're still parked at the starting line. The pressure builds. Mentally, you're battling doubt. Financially, you feel the weight of responsibility. And the worst part? You want to start, but you just don’t know how. That’s where Taylor Clark was. Done with school. Spinning in circles. So she tried everything. Said yes to new experiences. Flirted with a bunch of paths. And then one call with Gary Vee changed her life. Not because he handed her a golden ticket, but because she finally picked her thing… and went all in. What if that one call, that one moment of clarity, could change your entire direction? Are you ready to stop floundering and start moving with purpose? What sacrifices are you willing to make to break through your barriers? In this episode, Taylor Clark joins me to discuss her journey, how her conversation with Gary Vee completely changed her world, and helped her find her path. Things You’ll Learn In This Episode -Comparison is the thief of joy Your journey is unique, and comparison only distracts you from your own progress. What could you achieve if you focused entirely on your path instead of someone else's? -Genuine influence or vanity metrics A strong social media presence can give you a competitive edge, but vanity metrics like bought followers can distort true influence. How do we build genuine influence online instead of just chasing vanity metrics? -Three feet from gold Success is often just beyond the point where most people give up. What if the breakthrough you’ve been chasing is just one more step away? Guest Bio Taylor Clark is the founder and creator behind The Fabulous Journey, a lifestyle blog and YouTube channel that chronicles her adventures in fashion, travel, and personal growth. With a background in fashion design and retail business, she has worked with renowned brands such as Vera Wang Bridal and Rachel Zoe Styling. Her platform offers readers and viewers insights into living life to the fullest while embracing style and authenticity. In 2017, Taylor gained significant attention when she appeared on Gary Vaynerchuk's Ask Gary Vee show. During the episode, she discussed her entrepreneurial aspirations and sought advice on navigating the challenges of building a personal brand. Her candid conversation with Gary Vee resonated with many, leading to widespread recognition and inspiring others to pursue their passions with determination. Through The Fabulous Journey, Taylor continues to inspire her audience by sharing her experiences and encouraging others to embrace their unique paths in life. Follow Taylor on Instagram @thefabulousjourney Subscribe to The Fabulous Journey on YouTube @TheFabulousJourney Find Taylor on LinkedIn @Taylor Clark About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom. Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!
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    1 hr and 15 mins
  • House Rich, Cash Poor? Here’s How to Flip the Script w/ Harrison George

    House Rich, Cash Poor? Here’s How to Flip the Script w/ Harrison George
    Jul 10 2025

    Families are house-rich but cash-poor. Sound familiar?

    Your home’s value has skyrocketed, but so have interest rates, and now you're stuck. Stuck with rising expenses. Stuck with high-interest debt. Stuck with equity… trapped in the walls of your own house.

    It’s like having a vault of money you can’t touch, while inflation and debt slowly suffocate your financial freedom.

    What if your house could pay off your debt? What if you could control your money instead of the bank controlling it? How much faster could you reach financial freedom if your home worked for you?

    There’s a smarter way to tap into that hidden wealth, and it’s called a First Lien HELOC.

    This isn’t your typical home equity line. It’s a powerful financial tool that lets you access your equity, pay down debt faster, and use your home to build real wealth, not just sit on paper gains.

    In this episode, I’m joined by Harrison George, Mortgage Loan Officer at CMG Financial, to discuss how you can use your home’s equity to pay off debt.

    We break down how it works, the potential benefits, and why it might be a smart financial move to consider.

    Things You’ll Learn In This Episode

    -Creating wealth from existing debt

    Strategically refinancing existing debt can turn what’s traditionally a liability into a source of capital for wealth-building. How could you restructure your current debts to start funding income-producing assets?

    -A self-completing financial cycle

    A First Lien HELOC can streamline and optimize your entire financial system by combining debt repayment and cash flow management. What else can it do for us?

    -Is more better

    More policies don’t always mean better results in a private banking system. How do you know when adding another policy is helping or just complicating your system?



    Guest Bio

    Harrison George is a highly accomplished Mortgage Loan Officer at CMG Financial in Meridian, Idaho, specializing in both purchase and refinance solutions. With a degree from Colorado Mesa University, he has earned recognition as a Top Producer by Scotsman Guide for his exceptional loan performance. Harrison is a thought leader in mortgage innovations, particularly the "All‑in‑One Loan" concept using LinkedIn and YouTube to educate homeowners, investors, and realtors on how to build equity faster and achieve greater financial flexibility. Dedicated to client success, Harrison emphasizes transparent communication and customized strategies, earning consistently positive feedback from satisfied borrowers.

    Subscribe to The Harrison George Team on YouTube

    Find Harrison on LinkedIn @Harrison George



    About Your Host

    From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently the founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier.

    His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works.

    Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans, delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.

    Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!

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    43 mins
  • Your Worst Investment Habit? Falling for the Next Big Thing w/ Troy Eckard

    Your Worst Investment Habit? Falling for the Next Big Thing w/ Troy Eckard
    Jul 3 2025

    Why do so many investors keep losing money despite all the opportunities around them? It’s a painful cycle, jumping from one shiny new trend to the next, blinded by hype, only to watch their hard-earned cash slip away. Sound familiar?

    The truth is, chasing every new “hot” opportunity is a fast track to bad decisions and big losses. Investors are paralyzed by FOMO, and they throw caution to the wind, forgetting the basics that build real, lasting wealth.

    What if your biggest investment mistake is chasing the wrong opportunities? How much money have you lost by ignoring the fundamentals?

    It’s time to stop the cycle. The solution? Go back to fundamentals. Focus on solid principles, disciplined strategies, and patience, not the latest shiny object or hype-driven fad. When you master the basics, you stop losing and start winning.

    Troy Eckard, founder and chairman of Eckard Enterprises, joins me to talk about the mistakes investors are making today, why it's so crucial to never forget the fundamentals, as well as the oil and gas industry and the current buzz around it.

    Things You’ll Learn In This Episode

    Slow and steady wins the investment race

    Slow and simple investing builds steady, long-term wealth without unnecessary risk. What if the secret to financial success isn’t speed, but patience and consistency?

    Learn from the losses

    Mistakes are inevitable in investing, but each loss is a chance to learn and improve your strategy. Are you using your investment losses as lessons or just setbacks?

    Tech transformation in the oil and gas industry.

    Oil and gas decisions have shifted from broad guesswork in the past to data-driven precision today. How has advanced technology transformed the way we explore and extract oil and gas?



    Guest Bio

    Troy W. Eckard is the Founder, Chairman, and CEO of Eckard Enterprises, LLC (and its affiliate, Eckard Land & Acquisition), a Texas-based asset management firm specializing in alternative investments within the energy sector

    Since entering the oil and gas industry in 1985, Troy has raised hundreds of millions from high-net-worth individuals, overseen exploration projects, mineral rights acquisition across thousands of square miles, and co-founded Kinetica Partners, which manages over 1,800 miles of Gulf of Mexico pipelines

    Known for his transparent, investor-first approach, he fosters strong partner relationships and hosts annual conferences to maintain open dialogue and trust

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    With a focus on tangible, cash-flowing assets like minerals, water rights, and real estate, Troy has guided his firm toward sustainable, generation-spanning wealth

    Visit https://eckardenterprises.com/

    Find Troy on LinkedIn @Troy W Eckard

    About Your Host

    From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier.

    His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works.

    Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.

    Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!
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    45 mins
  • The Invisible Force Keeping the Market Alive and How to Protect Yourself w/ Chris Miles

    The Invisible Force Keeping the Market Alive and How to Protect Yourself w/ Chris Miles
    Jun 26 2025
    Why hasn’t the stock market crashed yet? You’re watching the headlines, feeling the tension, wondering if the bubble’s about to burst and how you’ll protect everything you’ve worked for. The truth? The market hasn’t crashed because there’s still one critical thing pumping it up. Money supply. As long as cash keeps flowing through the economy, the market stays propped up. But what happens when that stops? When the money flow slows or dries up, the whole house of cards can come tumbling down, and your investments with it. So, how do you safeguard yourself in this uncertain environment? That’s where the Infinite Banking Concept (IBC) comes in. It’s a way to take control of your own financial system, protect your wealth from market shocks, and keep your money growing no matter what the market does. Chris Miles, founder of Money Ripples and fellow podcast host, joins me in this episode to break down what’s really happening with the stock market, why it hasn’t crashed, why it’s holding steady, and what that means for investors. Things You’ll Learn In This Episode -The Roaring '20s vs today Both the Roaring '20s and today reflect a period of cultural shift, innovation, and post-crisis optimism. What drives society to repeat similar patterns of bold expression and rapid change after major upheaval? -Buy low, sell high The basic principle of investing is to buy at a low price and sell at a high price to lock in profits. If the goal is to maximize gains, why do so many people hesitate to sell when they're actually ahead? -Liberation with the Infinite Banking Concept The Infinite Banking Concept puts you in control of your finances by allowing you to become your own source of funding. What could your life look like if you no longer relied on banks or lenders to finance your goals? Guest Bio Chris Miles is a cash flow expert and the founder of Money Ripples, a financial education company dedicated to helping entrepreneurs and professionals achieve financial freedom. Known as the “Anti-Financial Advisor,” Chris advocates for alternative strategies to traditional financial planning, emphasizing the importance of creating passive income streams and maximizing cash flow. After starting his career as a financial advisor, Chris recognized the limitations of conventional investment approaches and transitioned to real estate investing. This shift enabled him to retire at the age of 28. Since then, he has dedicated his efforts to teaching others how to achieve a “work-optional” lifestyle through strategic financial planning and investment. Through Money Ripples, Chris has assisted clients in increasing their cash flow by over $300 million in the past 13 years. He hosts the Money Ripples Podcast, where he shares insights on creating passive income, the Infinite Banking Concept, and strategies for achieving financial independence. Visit https://moneyripples.com/ Subscribe to the Money Ripples with Chris Miles YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@moneyrippleswithchrismiles Listen to the Money Ripples Podcast on Apple here Listen to the Money Ripples Podcast on Spotify here About Your Host From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier. His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works. Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom. Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!
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    1 hr
  • The Wealth You Don’t See: Why Discipline Beats Hype in Investing w/ Paul Moore

    The Wealth You Don’t See: Why Discipline Beats Hype in Investing w/ Paul Moore
    Jun 19 2025

    Here's the truth nobody talks about: investing isn’t about saying “yes” to every shiny opportunity that comes your way. It’s about discipline. It’s about mastering the art of saying “no.” It’s about boring consistency, and yes, sometimes it feels plain, but that’s where real wealth is quietly built.

    Paul Moore’s journey from rags to riches didn’t just end with his financial exit. He wiped out his debt and embraced the mindset that no matter what, you never stop giving. Because giving fuels growth, relationships, and opportunity in ways money alone never can.

    What if saying “no” more often is actually the key to unlocking your financial freedom? Are you prepared to keep giving, even when it feels like you’ve given enough and things get tough?

    In this episode, founder of Wellings Capital Paul Moore, joins me to talk about real estate investing, how he went from rags to riches, and why the way out is to always give.

    Things You’ll Learn In This Episode

    -Learning to say NO

    The most successful investors achieve their results by saying no to nearly every opportunity. How can learning to say no improve decision-making and long-term success?

    -The real housing crisis

    Many real estate developers prioritize luxury apartments, overlooking the growing demand for affordable housing. What is the impact of this unbalanced supply and demand?

    -Warren Buffett: rules for real estate

    Warren Buffett emphasizes investing in real estate with a long-term mindset, focusing on value, not hype. How can adopting a long-term, value-focused approach improve real estate investment strategy?



    Guest Bio

    Paul Moore is the Founder of Wellings Capital. After graduating with an engineering degree and then an MBA from Ohio State, Paul entered the management development track at Ford Motor Company in Detroit. After five years, he departed to start a staffing company with a partner. They scaled and sold the company to a publicly traded firm five years later. After a brief “retirement” in his early 30s, Paul began investing in real estate in 1999 to protect and grow his own wealth.

    He completed over 85 real estate investments and exits, appeared on HGTV’s House Hunters, rehabbed and managed dozens of rental properties, and developed a subdivision. After completing three successful real estate developments, including assisting with the development of a Hyatt hotel and a very successful multifamily project, Paul narrowed his focus to commercial real estate in 2011. Paul is married with four children and lives in Central Virginia.

    Visit https://www.wellingscapital.com/resources for more information.

    Find Paul’s books on Amazon here

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    About Your Host

    From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be. Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier.

    His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions. As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works.

    Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.


    Check out this episode on our website, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!
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    45 mins