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Make it Work — Conversations about people, work and tech

Make it Work — Conversations about people, work and tech

By: Magnet.me
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Summary
Make it Work is a podcast by Magnet.me, hosted by Laurens van Nues (Co-founder & CEO). In honest conversations with founders and leaders, we unpack the real decisions behind building organisations: what shaped them, what they got wrong, and how they think about leadership, culture, hiring, and the future of work. Magnet.me is the AI-driven career network turning recruitment from transactions into lasting relationships, connecting 450,000+ job seekers with 6,000+ companies. Follow us on ⁠LinkedIn⁠ or visit ⁠https://magnet.me/employers⁠ for more information.Magnet.me Economics Management Management & Leadership
Episodes
  • #S1E5: Why investing in people matters even more in the age of AI | Janine Vos (Rabobank)
    Sep 24 2026

    In this episode, we sit down with Janine Vos, CHRO of Rabobank, to explore why investing in people matters even more in the age of AI. Janine highlights a growing dilemma: AI is automating the entry-level work through which young employees traditionally learn their profession. She explains why Rabobank continues to invest in talent and believes large employers should remain a “learning house” for the next generation. We also discuss why recruitment should focus on building long-term relationships, how Rabobank embeds diversity of backgrounds into succession planning, and what organizations can do to prepare their people for the future.


    Her advice? Invest in human potential, stay curious, and remember that knowing yourself will be just as important as becoming AI-literate.


    Follow us on⁠ ⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠ or visit⁠ ⁠⁠https://magnet.me/employers⁠⁠⁠ for more information.

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    54 mins
  • #S1E4: How AI will change work, but not as fast as Big Tech predicts? | Sander van ’t Noordende (Randstad)
    Jun 9 2026

    In this episode, we sit down with Sander van 't Noordende, CEO of Randstad, the world's largest talent company, for a reality check on AI and the future of work. Sander draws a striking parallel with the dotcom era to illustrate how AI will transform the way we work. We dive into the Randstad Workmonitor, which shows that work-life balance is now almost on par with pay as a top priority for talent, and discuss why portfolio careers, the rise of the 50+ workforce, and an "assertive third" willing to quit are signals employers can't afford to ignore.His leadership advice? Have a clear point of view, build a team that complements you, and make sure you enjoy the ride. Listen to this episode if you're interested in AI and the future of work, talent strategy, workforce trends, portfolio careers, and leadership in times of change.


    Explore the full Randstad Workmonitor at ⁠https://www.randstad.nl/werkgevers/kenniscentrum/workmonitor-2026

    ⁠Follow us on⁠ ⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠ or visit⁠ ⁠https://magnet.me/employers⁠⁠ for more information.

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    49 mins
  • #S1E3: The organizational challenges for making AI work | Caroline Tervoort (KPMG)
    Apr 9 2026

    Caroline Tervoort is Partner Business & HR Transformation at KPMG, and at the forefront of a complete rethink of how we manage the world of work. AI is changing what jobs look like, how teams collaborate, and what skills organizations need. KPMG's conviction? "It stays human work." But what does that actually mean when AI can attend multiple meetings at once and process data faster than any analyst?


    In this episode of Make it Work, we explore what AI really means for hiring, why organizations need a fundamental redesign of how humans and AI work together, how to build hybrid human-AI teams, and what that means for leadership. Caroline also speaks openly about her journey as a woman in consulting, why it's essential to stay true to yourself, and why grabbing every opportunity with a Pippi Longstocking's mindset has been key to her success.


    If you enjoyed this conversation, hit like, and subscribe to Make it Work on Spotify so you don't miss the next episode. Got thoughts or a suggestion for a future guest? Drop a comment below, we'd love to hear from you.

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    48 mins
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