Fifth episode in a special series of the Make it Plain podcast, ‘What Would Malcolm Say?’ where Kehinde Andrews explains what Malcolm’s body of work tells us about what is going on in the present. Each episode will also feature a full interview with someone featured in the documentary 'Nobody Can Give You Freedom', which was independently made by Make it Plain.

You can watch the entire documentary for free at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZBZyaruoGo&t=136s

Film was made by @MichaelEllisFilms

With Jamaica calling on King Charles to support reparations, Kehinde explains what Malcolm would say about the reparatory justice movement today. From the Caribbean Community to the American Descendants of Slavery, reparations are on the agenda, but lacking the radical roots from Malcolm's time. Malcolm famously explained that 'if you stick a knife in my back nine inches, and pull it out 6 inches that is not progress...you have to heal the wound'. Using that yardstick we must understand that the West can never repay the debt, that reparations are revolution.

Plus we share the full interview with Dr Olivia Rutazibwa from the Nobody Can Give You Freedom film

Find out more about Dr Rutazibwa at https://www.lse.ac.uk/sociology/people/academic-staff/olivia-umurerwa-rutazibwa

Find out who sists on the judicial committee on the Privy Council https://jcpc.uk/

Get your copy of Kehinde's book Nobody Can Give You Freedom. Out now in the UK at https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460078/nobody-can-give-you-freedom-by-andrews-kehinde/9780241681176

Out in the US on 9th September https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/kehinde-andrews/nobody-can-give-you-freedom/9781645030706/?lens=bold-type-books

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Written and hosted by Kehinde Andrews

Produced by Kadiri Andrews

Artwork by Assata Andrews

Fourth episode in a special series of the Make it Plain podcast, ‘What Would Malcolm Say?’ where Kehinde Andrews explains what Malcolm’s body of work tells us about what is going on in the present. Each episode will also feature a full interview with someone featured in the documentary 'Nobody Can Give You Freedom', which was independently made by Make it Plain. You can watch the entire documentary for free at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZBZyaruoGo&t=136s

Film was made by Michael Ellis Films

This week Kehinde breaks down what Malcolm would say about Diddy, Tyler Perry, R-Kelley, Cosby and all the other accusations of sexual abuse facing some high profile Black celebrities. You best believe Malcom would be mad both at the lack of protection for Black women and how we have been building up the wrong people in the first place. We shouldn't ben adoring those in the House and then wandering why many are fallen idols. Plus we share the full interview with Sayce Holmes-Lewis from Mentivity from the Nobody Can Give You Freedom film

Find out about Mentivity: here https://www.mentivity.com/

Get your copy of Kehinde's book Nobody Can Give You Freedom. Out now in the UK at https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460078/nobody-can-give-you-freedom-by-andrews-kehinde/9780241681176

Out in the US on 9th September https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/kehinde-andrews/nobody-can-give-you-freedom/9781645030706/?lens=bold-type-books

Support Make it Plain: https://make-it-plain.org/support-us/

Join Harambee OBU https://www.blackunity.org.uk/

Find out about the Convention for Afrikan People: https://make-it-plain.org/convention-of-afrikan-people/

Written and hosted by Kehinde Andrews

Produced by Kadiri Andrews

Artwork by Assata Andrews

Third episode in a special series of the Make it Plain podcast, ‘What Would Malcolm Say?’ where Kehinde Andrews explains what Malcolm’s body of work tells us about what is going on in the present. Each episode will also feature a full interview with someone featured in the documentary 'Nobody Can Give You Freedom', which was independently made by Make it Plain.

You can watch the entire documentary for free at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZBZyaruoGo&t=136s Film was made by Michael Ellis Films

This week Kehinde introduces the episode wishing all the Black fathers out there a Happy Fathers day. Despite the stereotypes research shows we are the most likely to be active in our children's lives. In light of the recent hostility between Israel and Iran he then discusses what Malcolm would say about Palestine. Malcolm was firmly behind the Palestinian people, linking the struggle for Black freedom to those of oppressed people around the globe. There is no contradiction in trying to build Black independence AND supporting other oppressed groups. Both are essential.

Read Malcolm's piece Zionist logic here https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/newspape/socialist-viewpoint-us/mayjun_05/mayjun_05_21.htm

Get your copy of Kehinde's book Nobody Can Give You Freedom. Out now in the UK at https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460078/nobody-can-give-you-freedom-by-andrews-kehinde/9780241681176

Out in the US on 9th September https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/kehinde-andrews/nobody-can-give-you-freedom/9781645030706/?lens=bold-type-books

Support Make it Plain: https://make-it-plain.org/support-us/

Join Harambee OBU https://www.blackunity.org.uk/

Find out about the Convention for Afrikan People: https://make-it-plain.org/convention-of-afrikan-people/

Written and hosted by Kehinde Andrews

Produced by Kadiri Andrews

Artwork by Assata Andrews

Second episode in a special series of the Make it Plain podcast, ‘What Would Malcolm Say?’ where Kehinde Andrews explains what Malcolm’s body of work tells us about what is going on in the present. Each episode will also feature a full interview with someone featured in the documentary 'Nobody Can Give You Freedom', which was independently made by Make it Plain. You can watch the entire documentary for free at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZBZyaruoGo&t=136s

Film was made by Michael Ellis Films

This week Kehinde introduces the episode talking about Ibrahim Traore and the importance of building a Black united front to support radical politics. He also uses Malcolm's words to warn that 'these leaders over here who are receiving the praise and pats on the back from the Americans, you can just flush the toilet and let them go right down the drain'. There is no better example of this rule than Nelson Mandela, who Malcolm would have dubbed a 'modern day Uncle Tom'.

We then play the full interview with George the Poet, at the LSE Old Theatre where Malcolm gave one of his last international speeches.

Check out George's book 'Track Record' https://afroribooks.co.uk/products/track-record-me-music-and-the-war-on-blackness-by-george-the-poet-published-25th-april-2024?srsltid=AfmBOorrftYmmf51MHUgrufsx7gtN96eIfYfS2_4lMr00PX_2US3j8cT

Have you heard George's Podcas? https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p07915kd/episodes/downloads

Get your copy of Kehinde's book Nobody Can Give You Freedom. Out now in the UK at https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460078/nobody-can-give-you-freedom-by-andrews-kehinde/9780241681176

Out in the US on 9th September https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/kehinde-andrews/nobody-can-give-you-freedom/9781645030706/?lens=bold-type-books

Support Make it Plain: https://make-it-plain.org/support-us/

Join Harambee OBU https://www.blackunity.org.uk/

Find out about the Convention for Afrikan People: https://make-it-plain.org/convention-of-afrikan-people/

First episode in a special series of the Make it Plain podcast, ‘What Would Malcolm Say?’ where Kehinde Andrews explains what Malcolm’s body of work tells us about what is going on in the present. Each episode will also feature a full interview with some featured in the documentary Nobody Can Give You Freedom, which was independently made by Make it Plain.

You can watch the entire documentary for free at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZBZyaruoGo&t=136s Film was made by Michael Ellis Films https://www.youtube.com/michaelellisfilms

This week Kehinde introduces the series and starts off getting a few things off his chest since it has been a while since he did a podcast. He covers Trump 2.0, the con of academics using complicated language to justify their salaries, and the what Malcolm would have said about the how we organise following the fifth anniversary of the death of George Floyd.

Get your copy of Kehinde's book Nobody Can Give You Freedom. Out now in the UK at https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460078/nobody-can-give-you-freedom-by-andrews-kehinde/9780241681176

Out in the US on 9th September https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/kehinde-andrews/nobody-can-give-you-freedom/9781645030706/?lens=bold-type-books

Support Make it Plain: https://make-it-plain.org/support-us/

Join Harambee OBU https://www.blackunity.org.uk/

Find out about the Convention for Afrikan People: https://make-it-plain.org/convention-of-afrikan-people/

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This week Kehinde answers some mailbag questions from our listeners. Topics included the Jay-Z news, Lammy's response to the arrest of Marcus Fakana in Dubai, the role of Black academics and how we build Black solidarity. We also pay tribute to Nikki Giovanni

This is our final episode for 2024 and also the last episode in season 2 (S2) of the Make It Plain Podcast. Season 3 (S3) will be back next year. We are super grateful for your support, and we'll see you in 2025.

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Make it Plain - Black Education Community Resource Bank
We are creating an educational community resource bank., to provide the education that Black children need. Please email us your resource links and we'll create a Black education resource page on Make it Plain.
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CAP25/26 (Virtual/In-Person) - Convention of Afrikan People - Gambia - April 2026 (Everyone's Welcome*)
The event was originally booked for May 2025 and has been postponed to April 2026 but will still occur in the Gambia. CAP25 will ideally take place as a virtual convention in preparation for CAP26.

On Malcolm X’s 100th birthday, the Harambee Organisation of Black Unity is bringing together those in Afrika and the Diaspora who want to fulfill Malcolm’s legacy and build a global organization for Black people. This is an open invitation to anyone: https://make-it-plain.org/convention-of-afrikan-people/

*On the CAP Steering Committee, we have a Marginalized identities group that looks at LGBTQIA+ and other marginalized identities within Blackness, to ensure all Black people are included"

BUF - Black United Front
This is a global directory of Black organizations. It will be hosted completely free of charge, so if you run a Black organization, please email the name, address, website, and contact info to mip@blackunity.org.uk to be listed.

KEHINDE ANDREWS

Malcolm X Documentary
Kehinde will film in New York on February 19, 20, and 21, 2025, around the 60th anniversary of Malcolm's assassination. The documentary will be about Malcolm's life and what Malcolm would say if he were here with us today. If you know any organizations or people Kehinde can talk to in New York for the documentary, please email mip@blackunity.org.uk. Thank you.

New Book Coming Out (01/05/2025): Nobody Can Give You Freedom The Real Mission of Malcolm X
https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460078/nobody-can-give-you-freedom-by-andrews-kehinde/9780241681176

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As we wrap up 2024, Kehinde Andrews links up with co-host Busayo Twins to share their views of this year's headline events and stories as they relate to us.

For this special feature, Busayo will be a regular cohost with Kehinde, where they chop it up about the politics of the day, highlighting the news of the day and underlining their relevance to our communities. We need a name for this special feature so please send in your ideas and any questions for our hosts' next show through our socials channel or please email mip@blackunity.org.uk and we'll consider them.

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Busayo Twins is a thought leader doing political content online, including her show "Everything is Political" (get us all to realize that there is politics in most things we talk about or engage in) and Political Intrusive Thoughts. Busyao has been involved in the London School of Economics (LSE) Students' Union as both president and general secretary (social mobility and outreach stuff), president of the African and Caribbean Society at LSE, a strategic policy advisor at the Office for Students (working on closing attainment gaps), and community policy and strategy (at Black Curriculum), and most recently as strategic business development manager at ClearView Research (creating inclusive research).

BUSAYO SOCIALS LINKS

(IG) @busayotwins (TikTok) @busayotwins

SHOW LINKS

Katt Williams on Diddy, Harvey Weinstein, R. Kelly And Michael Jackson | CLUB SHAY SHAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpFNUPFRW_o

Martin and Malcolm and America: A Dream or a Nightmare?
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31071.Martin_and_Malcolm_and_America

Armband message one of truth & inclusivity - Guehi
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/clyj2e3dg14o

Assisted dying bill: How did my MP vote?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9wr95nkrr1o

JOIN THE STRUGGLE>> THE HARAMBEE ORGANISATION OF BLACK UNITY NEEDS YOU

Harambee Organisation of Black Unity
(Marcus Garvey Centre + Nicole Andrews Community Library, Birmingham, UK):
https://www.blackunity.org.uk/

(IG) @harambeeobu (X) @HarambeeOBU (FB) OBUBirmingham

Make it Plain - Black Education Community Resource Bank
We are creating an educational community resource bank., to provide the education that Black children need. Please email us your resource links and we'll create a Black education resource page on Make it Plain.
mip@blackunity.org.uk

CAP25 - Convention of Afrikan People - Gambia - May 17-19, 2025 (Everyone's Welcome*)
On Malcolm X’s 100th birthday, the Harambee Organisation of Black Unity is bringing together those in Afrika and the Diaspora who want to fulfill Malcolm’s legacy and build a global organization for Black people. This is an open invitation to anyone: https://make-it-plain.org/convention-of-afrikan-people/

*On the CAP Steering Committee, we have a Marginalized identities group that looks at LGBTQIA+ and other marginalized identities within Blackness, to ensure all Black people are included"

BUF - Black United Front
Global directory of Black organizations. This will be hosted completely free of charge so if you run a Black organization please email the name, address, website, and contact info to mip@blackunity.org.uk to be listed.

MIP SOCIALS LINK

Subscribe + Support Make It Plain
https://make-it-plain.org/support-us/

Host: (IG) @kehindeandrews (X) @kehinde_andrews
Podcast team: @makeitplainorg @weylandmck @inhisownterms @farafinmuso
Platform: (Blog) www.make-it-plain.org (YT) www.youtube.com/@MakeItPlain1964
Email: mip@blackunity.org.uk

For any help with your audio visit: https://weylandmck.com/

Make it Plain is the Editorial Wing of the Harambee Organisation of Black Unity