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Make It Plain Podcast

Make It Plain Podcast

By: Kehinde Andrews
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We are running a special series of the Make it Plain podcast, ‘What Would Malcolm Say?’ where Kehinde Andrews explains what Malcolm’s body of work tells us about what is going on in the present. Each episode will also feature a full interview with someone featured in the documentary 'Nobody Can Give You Freedom', which was independently made by Make it Plain. You can watch the entire documentary for free at Nobody Can Give You Freedom: The Real Miss... Film was made by Michael Ellis Films Support Make it Plain: https://make-it-plain.org/support-us/ Join Harambee OBU https://www.blackunity.org.uk/ Get your copy of Kehinde's book Nobody Can Give You Freedom. Out now in the UK at https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460078/nobody-can-give-you-freedom-by-andrews-kehinde/9780241681176 Out in the US on 9th September https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/kehinde-andrews/nobody-can-give-you-freedom/9781645030706/?lens=bold-type-books Written and hosted: Kehinde Andrews Artwork: Assata Andrews YouTube: Kadiri Andrews2024 Political Science Politics & Government
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  • What Would Malcolm Say About...Reparations? Plus full interview with Dr Olivia Rutazibwa
    Jun 30 2025

    Fifth episode in a special series of the Make it Plain podcast, ‘What Would Malcolm Say?’ where Kehinde Andrews explains what Malcolm’s body of work tells us about what is going on in the present. Each episode will also feature a full interview with someone featured in the documentary 'Nobody Can Give You Freedom', which was independently made by Make it Plain.

    You can watch the entire documentary for free at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZBZyaruoGo&t=136s

    Film was made by @MichaelEllisFilms

    With Jamaica calling on King Charles to support reparations, Kehinde explains what Malcolm would say about the reparatory justice movement today. From the Caribbean Community to the American Descendants of Slavery, reparations are on the agenda, but lacking the radical roots from Malcolm's time. Malcolm famously explained that 'if you stick a knife in my back nine inches, and pull it out 6 inches that is not progress...you have to heal the wound'. Using that yardstick we must understand that the West can never repay the debt, that reparations are revolution.

    Plus we share the full interview with Dr Olivia Rutazibwa from the Nobody Can Give You Freedom film

    Find out more about Dr Rutazibwa at https://www.lse.ac.uk/sociology/people/academic-staff/olivia-umurerwa-rutazibwa

    Find out who sists on the judicial committee on the Privy Council https://jcpc.uk/

    Get your copy of Kehinde's book Nobody Can Give You Freedom. Out now in the UK at https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460078/nobody-can-give-you-freedom-by-andrews-kehinde/9780241681176

    Out in the US on 9th September https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/kehinde-andrews/nobody-can-give-you-freedom/9781645030706/?lens=bold-type-books

    Support Make it Plain: https://make-it-plain.org/support-us/

    Join Harambee OBU https://www.blackunity.org.uk/

    Find out about the Convention for Afrikan People: https://make-it-plain.org/convention-of-afrikan-people/

    Written and hosted by Kehinde Andrews

    Produced by Kadiri Andrews

    Artwork by Assata Andrews

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    57 mins
  • What Would Malcolm Say...about Diddy? Plus full interview with Sayce Holmes-Lewis from Mentivity
    Jun 23 2025

    Fourth episode in a special series of the Make it Plain podcast, ‘What Would Malcolm Say?’ where Kehinde Andrews explains what Malcolm’s body of work tells us about what is going on in the present. Each episode will also feature a full interview with someone featured in the documentary 'Nobody Can Give You Freedom', which was independently made by Make it Plain. You can watch the entire documentary for free at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZBZyaruoGo&t=136s

    Film was made by Michael Ellis Films

    This week Kehinde breaks down what Malcolm would say about Diddy, Tyler Perry, R-Kelley, Cosby and all the other accusations of sexual abuse facing some high profile Black celebrities. You best believe Malcom would be mad both at the lack of protection for Black women and how we have been building up the wrong people in the first place. We shouldn't ben adoring those in the House and then wandering why many are fallen idols. Plus we share the full interview with Sayce Holmes-Lewis from Mentivity from the Nobody Can Give You Freedom film

    Find out about Mentivity: here https://www.mentivity.com/

    Get your copy of Kehinde's book Nobody Can Give You Freedom. Out now in the UK at https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460078/nobody-can-give-you-freedom-by-andrews-kehinde/9780241681176

    Out in the US on 9th September https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/kehinde-andrews/nobody-can-give-you-freedom/9781645030706/?lens=bold-type-books

    Support Make it Plain: https://make-it-plain.org/support-us/

    Join Harambee OBU https://www.blackunity.org.uk/

    Find out about the Convention for Afrikan People: https://make-it-plain.org/convention-of-afrikan-people/

    Written and hosted by Kehinde Andrews

    Produced by Kadiri Andrews

    Artwork by Assata Andrews

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    1 hr
  • What Would Malcolm Say...about Palestine? Plus Kehinde's parents on British Black Power
    Jun 16 2025

    Third episode in a special series of the Make it Plain podcast, ‘What Would Malcolm Say?’ where Kehinde Andrews explains what Malcolm’s body of work tells us about what is going on in the present. Each episode will also feature a full interview with someone featured in the documentary 'Nobody Can Give You Freedom', which was independently made by Make it Plain.

    You can watch the entire documentary for free at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZBZyaruoGo&t=136s Film was made by Michael Ellis Films

    This week Kehinde introduces the episode wishing all the Black fathers out there a Happy Fathers day. Despite the stereotypes research shows we are the most likely to be active in our children's lives. In light of the recent hostility between Israel and Iran he then discusses what Malcolm would say about Palestine. Malcolm was firmly behind the Palestinian people, linking the struggle for Black freedom to those of oppressed people around the globe. There is no contradiction in trying to build Black independence AND supporting other oppressed groups. Both are essential.

    Read Malcolm's piece Zionist logic here https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/newspape/socialist-viewpoint-us/mayjun_05/mayjun_05_21.htm

    Get your copy of Kehinde's book Nobody Can Give You Freedom. Out now in the UK at https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460078/nobody-can-give-you-freedom-by-andrews-kehinde/9780241681176

    Out in the US on 9th September https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/kehinde-andrews/nobody-can-give-you-freedom/9781645030706/?lens=bold-type-books

    Support Make it Plain: https://make-it-plain.org/support-us/

    Join Harambee OBU https://www.blackunity.org.uk/

    Find out about the Convention for Afrikan People: https://make-it-plain.org/convention-of-afrikan-people/

    Written and hosted by Kehinde Andrews

    Produced by Kadiri Andrews

    Artwork by Assata Andrews

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    1 hr and 9 mins

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