In this episode of Living Wholehearted, we sit down with Jon and Tristen Collins to explore why emotional health is not a one-time achievement, but a lifelong, grace-filled process. Together, we talk about how emotions shape our faith, our marriages, and the way we lead—especially when we’ve been taught to suppress or spiritualize them away.

Drawing from their book Why Emotions Matter, Jon and Tristen invite us to rethink the relationship between emotional maturity and spiritual formation. We discuss the church’s complicated history with emotions, how our bodies communicate what’s happening beneath the surface, and why knowing we are already loved by God frees us to engage the messy work of growth. This conversation is honest, practical, and deeply hopeful—for leaders, couples, and anyone longing to live more wholeheartedly.

1. Emotional health is an ongoing process, not a spiritual finish line
2. God’s love is not earned through emotional or spiritual maturity
3. Emotions act as signals, revealing deeper needs, values, and limits
4. Suppressing emotions often creates disconnection in marriage and leadership
5. Spiritual maturity cannot exist without emotional maturity
6. Our bodies play a vital role in how emotions surface and heal
7. Grace creates the safety needed for emotional growth

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We LOVE that you’ve decided to join us this week for the Living Wholehearted Podcast. We hope you enjoyed the conversation, tips, and resources to help you transform every relationship that matters most to you. If you think this will help someone you know, make sure you send it their way or share on socials. Tag us @living_wholehearted and @terramattson! Don't forget to FOLLOW/SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss an episode and help spread the word by leaving us some stars on a review. Thanks for partnering with us to help more leaders, just like you, who want to live and lead with integrity at home, work and in the community. Go to livingwholehearted.com and sign up to receive our free leadership tips and updates delivered to you in our monthly newsletter. And, if you’re a girl mom, check out mycourageousgirls.com.

Until next time, be the leader you would follow!

Grateful for you,

Jeff & Terra

To connect with Jeff & Terra Mattson and Living Wholehearted, go to:

INSTAGRAM

@TerraMattson

@Living_Wholehearted

@MyCourageousGirls

FACEBOOK

@WeAreLivingWholehearted

@MyCourageousGirls

WEBSITES

LivingWholehearted.com

TerraMattson.com

MyCourageousGirls.com

RESOURCES

Shrinking the Integrity Gap

Shrinking the Integrity Gap e-Course

Courageous: Being Daughters Rooted in Grace

Dear Mattsons

Helping Moms Raise Confident Daughters

In this episode, we get practical and deeply personal about time—how we steward it, protect it, and live it in alignment with what matters most. We share how time blocking, concentric circles, and intentional rhythms of rest have shaped our marriage, parenting, leadership, and faith. Rather than letting life hijack our calendars, we invite you into a way of living where priorities drive decisions, margin creates freedom, and our kids learn—by watching us—that we are human beings, not just human doers. This conversation is about integrity, peace, and choosing presence in a busy, performance-driven world.

Key Takeaways

1. Intentionality with time creates freedom, not rigidity—especially in marriage and family life.
2. Concentric circles bring clarity by helping us say yes or no based on how decisions impact our inner priorities.
3. Rest, play, and margin must be scheduled if we want them to actually happen.
4. Our calendars preach—kids learn more from what we model than what we say.
5. Different wiring requires different rhythms, even within the same marriage or family.
6. Performance-based living (and faith) leads to burnout, while relational rhythms lead to peace.
7. You likely have more authority over your time than you think—and reclaiming it is an integrity issue.

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We LOVE that you’ve decided to join us this week for the Living Wholehearted Podcast. We hope you enjoyed the conversation, tips, and resources to help you transform every relationship that matters most to you. If you think this will help someone you know, make sure you send it their way or share on socials. Tag us @living_wholehearted and @terramattson! Don't forget to FOLLOW/SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss an episode and help spread the word by leaving us some stars on a review. Thanks for partnering with us to help more leaders, just like you, who want to live and lead with integrity at home, work and in the community. Go to livingwholehearted.com and sign up to receive our free leadership tips and updates delivered to you in our monthly newsletter. And, if you’re a girl mom, check out mycourageousgirls.com.

Until next time, be the leader you would follow!

Grateful for you,

Jeff & Terra

To connect with Jeff & Terra Mattson and Living Wholehearted, go to:

INSTAGRAM

@TerraMattson

@Living_Wholehearted

@MyCourageousGirls

FACEBOOK

@WeAreLivingWholehearted

@MyCourageousGirls

WEBSITES

LivingWholehearted.com

TerraMattson.com

MyCourageousGirls.com

RESOURCES

Shrinking the Integrity Gap

Shrinking the Integrity Gap e-Course

Courageous: Being Daughters Rooted in Grace

Dear Mattsons

Helping Moms Raise Confident Daughters

In this episode, we sit down with Erin Kerry, a mental health advocate, integrative nutrition coach, and mom who knows firsthand what it means to live with anxiety while holding onto faith. Together, we explore the intersection of mental and physical health, the power of grace when we feel broken, and how to shift from shame to self-compassion. Erin shares her journey of learning to partner with God in healing—body, mind, and spirit—and offers practical wisdom for anyone wrestling with the weight of anxiety, identity, or performance.

1. Faith and mental health can coexist—struggling with anxiety doesn’t mean you lack faith.
2. The body keeps the score—our physical health often reflects our inner world, and healing requires an integrated approach.
3. Naming your anxiety is the first step toward disarming its power.
4. Grace is not passivity—it’s active participation with God in the process of renewal.
5. Identity precedes performance—you are loved and whole before you do anything to prove it.
6. Community and honest conversation break the stigma around faith and mental health.
7. Parenting through anxiety requires compassion—for our kids and for ourselves.

Website: erinbkerry.com

Instagram:@sparkingwholeness

Facebook:Sparking Wholeness

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We LOVE that you’ve decided to join us this week for the Living Wholehearted Podcast. We hope you enjoyed the conversation, tips, and resources to help you transform every relationship that matters most to you. If you think this will help someone you know, make sure you send it their way or share on socials. Tag us @living_wholehearted and @terramattson! Don't forget to FOLLOW/SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss an episode and help spread the word by leaving us some stars on a review. Thanks for partnering with us to help more leaders, just like you, who want to live and lead with integrity at home, work and in the community. Go to livingwholehearted.com and sign up to receive our free leadership tips and updates delivered to you in our monthly newsletter. And, if you’re a girl mom, check out mycourageousgirls.com.

Until next time, be the leader you would follow!

Grateful for you,

Jeff & Terra

To connect with Jeff & Terra Mattson and Living Wholehearted, go to:

INSTAGRAM

@TerraMattson

@Living_Wholehearted

@MyCourageousGirls

FACEBOOK

@WeAreLivingWholehearted

@MyCourageousGirls

WEBSITES

LivingWholehearted.com

TerraMattson.com

MyCourageousGirls.com

RESOURCES

Shrinking the Integrity Gap

Shrinking the Integrity Gap e-Course

Courageous: Being Daughters Rooted in Grace

Dear Mattsons

Helping Moms Raise Confident Daughters

In this episode, we sit down with Dave and Ann Wilson to talk honestly about the real struggles couples face in marriage. From unmet expectations and old wounds to finding healing through vulnerability, grace, and God’s love, we unpack what it means to speak life into your spouse—even when it feels easier to criticize. Together, we explore the hope and redemption available when we lean into the hard work of marriage and invite Jesus into the center of it all.

1. Marriage is meant to be challenging—don’t give up; growth comes through the struggle.
2. Unhealed childhood wounds often resurface in marriage, shaping conflict and connection.
3. Vulnerability and emotional honesty are essential for real intimacy.
4. Speaking life over your spouse can transform a marriage more than criticism ever could.
5. God’s grace provides the foundation to rebuild trust and hope after brokenness.
6. Couples need to pursue healing for themselves to show up whole in their relationship.

Facebook: @DaveAnnWilson

Instagram: @DaveAnnWilson

YouTube: @DaveAnnWilson

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We LOVE that you’ve decided to join us this week for the Living Wholehearted Podcast. We hope you enjoyed the conversation, tips, and resources to help you transform every relationship that matters most to you. If you think this will help someone you know, make sure you send it their way or share on socials. Tag us @living_wholehearted and @terramattson! Don't forget to FOLLOW/SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss an episode and help spread the word by leaving us some stars on a review. Thanks for partnering with us to help more leaders, just like you, who want to live and lead with integrity at home, work and in the community. Go to livingwholehearted.com and sign up to receive our free leadership tips and updates delivered to you in our monthly newsletter. And, if you’re a girl mom, check out mycourageousgirls.com.

Until next time, be the leader you would follow!

Grateful for you,

Jeff & Terra

To connect with Jeff & Terra Mattson and Living Wholehearted, go to:

INSTAGRAM

@TerraMattson

@Living_Wholehearted

@MyCourageousGirls

FACEBOOK

@WeAreLivingWholehearted

@MyCourageousGirls

WEBSITES

LivingWholehearted.com

TerraMattson.com

MyCourageousGirls.com

RESOURCES

Shrinking the Integrity Gap

Shrinking the Integrity Gap e-Course

Courageous: Being Daughters Rooted in Grace

Dear Mattsons

Helping Moms Raise Confident Daughters