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Light Forest

Light Forest

By: Dev Lewis
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The Light Forest podcast is a journey of exploration to bring more Light into how we live and regenerate our planet away from 'Dark Forest' systems of extraction and fear. In Season 0 join me for conversations with change makers from around the world, as we explore philosophies, technology, spirituality, and history that can help us get to the root of our global problems. Together we learn how to play our part in the regeneration of our planet, starting with our own minds, to create a Light Forest world.Dev Lewis Social Sciences
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  • EP 23. Educating for Peace (Qamaruzzaman)
    Nov 29 2025

    We talk about finding peace and peace building, as individuals and as a planet. What does peace really mean? What are the conditions that it may arise?

    In this episode we go on a long walk and a yarn about Peace from many dimensions: inner, social, and global, and the role of education in fostering it.

    Q has been an educator, a ‘physics geek’, and guitarist for many decades specialising in educating for peace. He works with schools and organizations across Asia and globally, including communities navigating violence and trauma, helping learners explore fundamental questions of identity, planetary well-being, and what it means to be human in the 21st century.

    In this conversation he opens up on his own journey, growing up as a Malay Singaporean, moving to Canada for High School and experiencing the power of education to bridge worlds, helping young Burmese navigate violence in their upbringing, and navigating a mental breakdown in his 40s, all which contributed to a deeper knowing of how we may create conditions for peace it to arise in our world.


    We recorded this together at Light Forest Studios in Chiang Mai. Thank you for listening!


    Projects and Resources Mentioned

    - CASEL (Collaborative for Academic, Social, and Emotional Learning)- Organization focused on social and emotional learning frameworks

    - **United World Colleges (UWC) - International network of schools promoting peace through education

    - UNESCO - United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization


    Books and Frameworks Referenced

    - Integral Theory by Ken Wilber

    - Johan Galtung’s peace theory
    - Myth of Normal by Gabor Mate

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    1 hr and 21 mins
  • EP 22. The Power of Metaphor to Transform our Future (Sohail Inayatullah)
    Nov 14 2025

    What if we understood the future as an open space, co-created by us in this moment.

    A reality that we actively shape, but driven by myths and metaphors we unconsciously hold about ourselves and the world.
    To live your authentic future, to help guide policy change, uncover the existing story and metaphor, and find a new one.
    From Dark Forest to Light Forest.
    We are joined by Sohail Inayatullah, a futures studies pioneer who has spent decades helping students, world leaders, and organizations navigate complexity and actively transform their futures, integrating Eastern and Western approaches.

    Sohail is co-founder of metafutures, educational think tank which explores futures-oriented issues, co-founder of the Asia-Pacific Futures Network, is the inaugural UNESCO Chair in Futures Studies, and holds several roles with universities around the globe, including Tamkang University (Taiwan).

    • 00:00:00 Introduction to Future Studies
    • 00:03:15 The Six Pillars Framework
    • 00:10:45 Causal Layered Analysis (CLA)
    • 00:18:30 Personal CLA and Metaphors
    • 00:25:00 Spirituality and Future Studies
    • 00:32:00 Health and Microvita
    • 00:40:00 Concluding Thoughts on Future Studies


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    55 mins
  • EP 21. Redesigning Money and Moving Away from GDP growth as Paths to a Regenerative World (Stephen DeMeulenaere)
    Nov 1 2025

    We’ve been told a story that human society evolved from primitive barter to superior modern money.

    That linear story flattens thousands of years of value exchanged through reciprocity, mutual aid, and gift economies. Systems that nourished people and ecological relationships.

    Modern (fiat) money and its associated systems have a valuable role to play but it has become a de-stabalising force in our culture, one that is at the root of all our planetary challenges today. Redesigning money is a core pathway away from GDP growth to a more regenerative, Light Forest World.


    Today, we’re joined by Stephen DeMeulenaere, who has spent over 35 years helping communities design financial tools that strengthen local economies, support small businesses, and build resilience in times of crisis.

    Stephen lives in Bali and is the co-author (with Scott Morris) of a recent book Pathways to Regeneration: Hope and Resilience Through Anticipatory Design

    His life’s focus has been on using local currencies, digital payments, and regenerative economic models to help communities thrive—whether in rural villages, urban neighborhoods, or entire regions. He has worked with community currencies, emergency currencies, and credit unions during the Asian Monetary Crisis in Japan, Hong Kong, Thailand, Indonesia, and East Timor after their independence. He led Indonesia’s first non-profit stablecoin and continues to bridge the worlds of community currencies and blockchain technology, collaborating with commons-centric communities to ground crypto in real-world regeneration.chain technology, collaborating with commons-centric communities, to ground crypto in real world regeneration.

    In this walk through the forest, Stephen takes us down many paths:

    • The history of money, economy, and anthropology to explain how our current system is on the verge of collapse.

    • A range of approaches from his book, drawing on leading thinkers, such as Kate Raworth and John Fullerton, and EF Schumacher, to redesign currency and economies.

    • His first-hand experience working with communities in Thailand and Indonesia designing community currencies in the late 90s

      A sharp assessment of the potential of blockchain to enable decentralised forms of currencies, and the practical challenges working with crypto space and the technology and rooting them in local communities.



    • Chapters

      02:16 Introduction to Stephen DeMeulenaere

      04:39 The Problematic Design of Economic Systems

      08:49 Extractive Economies and GDP Critique

      14:37 Anticipatory Design Framework

      19:10 Understanding Currency and Community Currencies

      33:49 Practical Applications of Community Currencies

      36:41 Designing Local Economies: Lessons from Indonesia

      39:34 The Role of Credit Unions in Community Economies

      40:40 Rethinking Money: From Barter to Relationships

      44:09 Crisis as a Catalyst for Monetary Innovation

      45:00 Community Resilience in Times of Crisis

      47:32 Exploring Forms of Capital in Local Communities

      49:29 Blockchain and Community Currencies: A New Frontier

      52:38 Bridging Community Currencies and Blockchain

      01:04:31 The Future of Community Currencies and Blockchain Integration

      01:07:56 Building Trust in Governance

      01:11:13 The Role of Blockchain in Community Governance

      01:15:24 Local Communities and Collaborative Economies

      01:20:03 Future Pathways and Financial Crises

      01:30:32 Taking Action and Building Resilience


      Visit https://lightforestworld.substack.com/for book references & connect with Stephen.

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    1 hr and 20 mins
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