Selling makes a lot of people feel uneasy. I get it completely. For years I felt the same way every time a sales conversation came around.

The scripted pitches everywhere you look. The fake countdown timers. The objection-handling traps designed to push people over a line they didn't really want to cross. All of it leads to following a process instead of having a real conversation with another human being.

In this episode I share how my whole approach to selling shifted during a coffee break at my coaching accreditation back in 2015, and how that one moment grew into the framework I now run across every sales conversation in my business.

What we cover...

• Why so much sales training creates the ick in the first place
• The real difference between coaching, training and mentoring
• The accidental coffee break that birthed Selling Without Selling
• What Scripture form the Bible, particularly, Mark Chapter 10 Verse 51 taught me about sales conversations
• The first three questions of my framework, including why step three is where the gold sits
• How fake scarcity and manufactured urgency destroy trust faster than anything else
• A Facebook ad I saw this week that demonstrated everything wrong with manipulation tactics
• Why I close around 90% of my sales calls today without using any script

Resources mentioned...

• Simplify the Funnel (signed hardback copy): https://www.simplifythefunnel.com
• Selling Without Selling video training: http://www.sellingwithoutselling.com
• The Hodges Net community and training library: https://www.hodgesnet.com

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In this episode, Ant Hodges dives into the book “Actual Intelligence” by Kenny Rueter and Jonathan Cronstedt, co-CEOs of Kajabi. Ant shares why this short, free book became one of his most validating reads, powerfully aligning with his own “simplify” philosophy and the ideas in his book “Simplify the Funnel.”

Using the book’s core concept – the Expert Equation (Expertise × Visibility × Availability = Value) – Ant unpacks why credentials alone are not enough, why “build it then sell it” and “sell it before you build it” are both flawed for most experts, and why starting with paid 1:1 work is the smartest way to build a knowledge business in the age of AI.

This episode is a call to simplify, to bring the human back into your business and your funnel, and to lean into your lived experience as your real differentiator from AI and automation.

• The Book: “Actual Intelligence”

• The Expert Equation

• The Problem with Relying on Credentials

• Visibility: Are You Even Findable? - the Simple visibility test

• Why You Should Sell Your Time First (Before Courses, Memberships, or Funnels)

• The Power of Paid Over Free

• Staying Human in the Age of AI

• Book: Actual Intelligence by Kenny Rueter & Jonathan Cronstedt - Get it at www.veryexpert.com/book

• Book by Ant: Simplify the Funnel - Get it at www.simplifythefunnel.com

• Ant’s Website & Contact - www.anthodges.com – hit the chat button to start a conversation

When revenue drops or clients leave, most business owners default to building something new or chasing a shiny opportunity. This episode is about why that instinct makes things harder - and what to do instead. Ant shares the three things that actually move the needle when your business hits a rough patch.

In this episode...

1. Focusing hard on a problem keeps your energy locked in the wrong place. The surface issue is rarely the real issue - look for the root cause first, especially around lead generation and sales conversations.
2. Building something new when things are tough is one of the biggest distractions available to an entrepreneur. A new platform, app, or offer all require branding, marketing, audience building, and selling. That's a new business - not a fix for the current one.
3. When revenue is down, the answer is to double down on what's already working - not add more to your plate. Simplifying in a tough moment is harder than it sounds, but it's the move that creates momentum.
4. A high-ticket offer wins over a low-ticket scramble every time in a difficult period. One well-positioned conversation can do what dozens of low-ticket sales attempts can't. Price your work relative to the value you deliver - a useful benchmark is around 10% of the result you're helping someone achieve.
5. The three things that give you clarity when things get tough: understand your calling, refine your message, and create an offer that reflects both. In that order.

• Simplify the Funnel by Ant Hodges - the full playbook on building a simpler marketing system that works. Grab it at www.simplifythefunnel.com

Ready to simplify your business? Visit www.anthodges.com and hit the "Let's Chat" button to start a WhatsApp conversation directly with Ant