• Give me the full story
    Dec 18 2025

    In today's episode of the Leadership Counts podcast, Rog & Col are joined by Managing Director of APSCo, Lesley Horsburgh.

    They chat about Lesley being painfully shy as a child in England, the benefits of having 'hands off' parents, how she ended up in Australia on her own, how we best support an ageing workforce, the most common mistakes associated with hiring policies, and why comparison is the thief of joy.

    Leadership Counts is available to download for free wherever you get your podcasts or via leadershipcounts.com.au

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    46 mins
  • 14 days stuck in a caravan
    Nov 26 2025

    Today on the Leadership Counts podcast Col reflects on one of his most vulnerable times during the early days of Covid.

    He talks about the decisions and mistakes he made as he tried to keep his business going, the thoughts running through his mind, going into survival mode, the lessons learned, and being so close, yet so far, from his family.

    Reference material:
    People: Dare to build an intentional culture - Mark O'Donnell, Kelly Knight, CJ DuBe

    Leadership Counts is available to download for free wherever you get your podcasts or via leadershipcounts.com.au

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    36 mins
  • A gift wrapped in shit
    Oct 29 2025

    In today’s episode of the Leadership Counts podcast Rog & Col discuss the topic of procrastination.

    They chat about the excuses we tell ourselves, removing fear, living our ideal life, being clear with your vision, the value of having an external sounding board, defining what you want, why golf is the learning game, taking ownership, and the power of journaling.

    Leadership Counts is available to download for free wherever you get your podcasts or via leadershipcounts.com.au

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    45 mins
  • Sliding door moments
    Sep 24 2025

    In this episode of the Leadership Counts podcast Rog & Col talk about making your own luck as Col takes us through a sliding door moment for him.

    They also talk about the post-Covid lag, the secret behind sales, just being nice, and bridging the gap between work and family.

    Reference material:
    The Let Them Theory - Mel Robbins
    The Courage to Be Disliked - Fumitake Koga
    The Mel Robbins podcast

    Leadership Counts is available to download for free wherever you get your podcasts or via leadershipcounts.com.au

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    42 mins
  • It’s not all about us
    Aug 27 2025

    Today on the Leadership Counts podcast Rog & Col will cover the topic of relationships and communication.

    They discuss how to build relationships quickly, being on the same wave length as others, the value of asking deeper questions, building trust, how delivering the truth leads to open and honest feedback, the growth that comes from ‘tough love’, trying not to judge other people, staying curious, keeping discipline as a positive, and the villains of listening.

    Reference material: Oscar Trimboli podcast - Deep Listening

    Leadership Counts is available to download for free wherever you get your podcasts or via leadershipcounts.com.au

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    48 mins
  • Let people fail
    Jul 30 2025

    In this episode of the Leadership Counts podcast Rog & Col talk about their podcast journey so far, control versus letting go, their experiences in coaching junior sport, the role parents need to play as spectators, tips for ‘John’, and ROI (return on impact).

    Reference material:
    Ken Robinson - You Tube Channel
    Geno Wickman - Shine

    Leadership Counts is available to download for free wherever you get your podcasts or via leadershipcounts.com.au

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    48 mins
  • Quality over quantity
    Jul 9 2025

    Today on the Leadership Counts podcast Rog & Col are joined by their first guest, Steve Tolen.

    They discuss Steve’s early career in selling fish, moving into the recruitment industry, falling out with his father, needing a circuit breaker in his life, arriving in Australia to a closed office, the evolution of sales, and stepping into the ring as a boxer.

    Reference material:
    Tim Grover - You Tube Channel
    Alex Hormozi - You Tube Channel

    Leadership Counts is available to download for free wherever you get your podcasts or via leadershipcounts.com.au


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    43 mins
  • I grew in the dark
    Jun 25 2025

    In this episode of the Leadership Counts podcast Col shares a very personal story about his battles with mental health.

    He traces the story back through the sale of his successful business, explains the elongated due diligence process, how reading about the deeds of a competitor led to a period of psychosis, the impact it had on his family and what led him to seek help.

    The information and themes discussed in this podcast episode are of a sensitive nature. If you, or anyone you know requires support please call Lifeline on 13 11 14.

    Leadership Counts is available to download for free wherever you get your podcasts or via leadershipcounts.com.au

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    38 mins