In this episode, we are discussing what they never teach you in law school—how the real world of law clerkships really works. Joining me is Troy Hendrickson, my resident law clerk and a current law student, who brings his own fresh experiences to the table.

Together, we break down what it actually means to be a law clerk—beyond the fancy titles—and get honest about pay expectations, resume-boosting positions, and the difference between big firm opportunities and the invaluable, hands-on education you get in a smaller practice like mine. We talk money, motivation, government jobs versus the private sector, and why sometimes the most valuable lessons don’t come with the biggest paychecks.

If you’re in law school, just starting your legal career, or simply curious about what a clerkship looks like on the ground, you’ll want to hear this conversation.

Key Moments

00:00 "Law School vs. Real-World Practice"

03:53 Avoided Big Law Temptations

08:34 Law Salary Expectations Disparity

12:10 Pre-Internet Problem-Solving Skills

14:29 "Mastering Skills Through Experience"

17:25 Paralegals: Efficient Alternatives in AI

19:40 Value Learning Over Initial Pay

22:53 "Law School's Economic Lessons"

Here are my top three takeaways:

• The Prestige and the Pay Are NOT Equal: Big Law may pay top dollar for summer clerks, but not every opportunity is a financial windfall—and often, the most prestigious or educational clerkships pay the least. Don’t overlook the value of experience for resume-building, even if the paycheck is modest.
• The Real Learning Starts Outside the Classroom: Most of the practical skills that make you valuable in a law practice—drafting, filing, firm workflow—aren’t taught in law school. You’ll learn by doing, often starting with the “menial” work that teaches the business from the ground up.
• Focus on the Experience (Not Just the Dollars): Especially in smaller firms or government settings, you might earn less, but the breadth of hands-on work and real legal training can set you apart. As Steve pointed out, the value of an opportunity isn’t always reflected on your paycheck—and sometimes, learning how things really work is worth more than a few extra bucks an hour.

Submit your questions to www.lawyertalkpodcast.com.

Recorded at Channel 511.

Stephen E. Palmer, Esq. has been practicing criminal defense almost exclusively since 1995. He has represented people in federal, state, and local courts in Ohio and elsewhere.

Though he focuses on all areas of criminal defense, he particularly enjoys complex cases in state and federal courts.

He has unique experience handling and assembling top defense teams of attorneys and experts in cases involving allegations of child abuse (false sexual allegations, false physical abuse allegations), complex scientific cases involving allegations of DUI and vehicular homicide cases with blood alcohol tests, and any other criminal cases that demand jury trial experience.

Steve has unique experience handling numerous high publicity cases that have garnered national attention.

For more information about Steve and his law firm, visit Palmer Legal Defense.

Copyright 2025 Stephen E. Palmer - Attorney At Law

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I’m Steve Palmer, and today I’m answering a great question sent in by Nancy from Ohio. Her son was arrested for OVI—even though his breath test was 0.07, which is below the state’s legal limit of 0.08. How is that possible?

In this episode, I’ll clear up the confusion around Ohio’s OVI laws, explain the difference between “impaired” and “per se” charges, and share how prosecutors build their cases even when the numbers seem to be in your favor.

I’ll also talk about why having a lawyer on your side is essential when facing an OVI or DUI charge. If you’ve ever wondered about what the “legal limit” really means or how law enforcement handles these cases, you’ll want to listen in.

Here are 3 key takeaways from the conversation:

• Two Ways to Be Charged:

In Ohio, you can be charged with OVI either by exceeding the legal limit (‘per se’ at 0.08 BAC for adults) OR by showing signs of impairment, regardless of your BAC.

• Impairment Can Trump the Numbers:

Even if your BAC is under 0.08, evidence such as slurred speech, poor field sobriety results, or an unsteady demeanor can still result in charges if law enforcement believes you are impaired.

• Legal Nuances Require Expertise:

Defending an OVI charge—even with a low BAC—can be complex. Legal limitations may prevent simply using the breath test result as a defense without expert testimony.

Got a question you want answered on the podcast? Call 614-859-2119 and leave us a voicemail. Steve will answer your question on the next podcast!

Submit your questions to www.lawyertalkpodcast.com.

Recorded at Channel 511.

Stephen E. Palmer, Esq. has been practicing criminal defense almost exclusively since 1995. He has represented people in federal, state, and local courts in Ohio and elsewhere.

Though he focuses on all areas of criminal defense, he particularly enjoys complex cases in state and federal courts.

He has unique experience handling and assembling top defense teams of attorneys and experts in cases involving allegations of child abuse (false sexual allegations, false physical abuse allegations), complex scientific cases involving allegations of DUI and vehicular homicide cases with blood alcohol tests, and any other criminal cases that demand jury trial experience.

Steve has unique experience handling numerous high-publicity cases that have garnered national attention.

For more information about Steve and his law firm, visit Palmer Legal Defense.

Copyright 2025 Stephen E. Palmer - Attorney At Law

Mentioned in this episode:

Circle 270 Media Podcast Consultants

Circle 270 Media® is a podcast consulting firm based in Columbus, Ohio, specializing in helping businesses develop, launch, and optimize podcasts as part of their marketing strategy. The firm emphasizes the importance of storytelling through podcasting to differentiate businesses and engage with their audiences effectively. www.circle270media.com

I got a listener question about the Bryan Kohberger sentencing and a comment President Trump made on social media. Trump suggested that the judge should force Kohberger to explain why he committed such terrible crimes—but is that really something a judge can do?

Drawing on my own experience practicing law in Ohio, I’ll walk you through the ins and outs of plea hearings, what rights a defendant actually has at sentencing, and the concept of allocution. I’ll break down how things typically work in the courtroom, whether a judge can—or should—demand an explanation from the defendant, and what it means for the justice system as a whole.

00:00 Can Judge Make Defendant Explain?

04:44 Judge's Discretion in Plea Agreements

06:34 "Case Closed, Open for Questions"

Here are three key takeaways:

• Defendants Can’t Be Forced to Explain Motives: Judges generally cannot compel a defendant to state why they committed a crime, except in limited plea scenarios. The primary focus is often on whether the guilty plea itself is backed by factual acknowledgment, not personal motivation.
• The Right of Allocution Is Standard, But Not Mandatory: Defendants have the right to speak (“allocute”) before sentencing—whether to apologize, explain, or even decline to say anything at all. However, most courts won’t force them to do so, and this right is widely but not constitutionally recognized.
• Withholding Explanation Can Influence Sentencing: While silence is an option, judges have the discretion to reject plea agreements or impose harsher sentences if a defendant withholds information the court finds important.

Got a question you want answered on the podcast? Call 614-859-2119 and leave us a voicemail. Steve will answer your question on the next podcast!

Submit your questions to www.lawyertalkpodcast.com.

Recorded at Channel 511.

Stephen E. Palmer, Esq. has been practicing criminal defense almost exclusively since 1995. He has represented people in federal, state, and local courts in Ohio and elsewhere.

Though he focuses on all areas of criminal defense, he particularly enjoys complex cases in state and federal courts.

He has unique experience handling and assembling top defense teams of attorneys and experts in cases involving allegations of child abuse (false sexual allegations, false physical abuse allegations), complex scientific cases involving allegations of DUI and vehicular homicide cases with blood alcohol tests, and any other criminal cases that demand jury trial experience.

Steve has unique experience handling numerous high-publicity cases that have garnered national attention.

For more information about Steve and his law firm, visit Palmer Legal Defense.

Copyright 2025 Stephen E. Palmer - Attorney At Law

Mentioned in this episode:

Circle 270 Media Podcast Consultants

Circle 270 Media® is a podcast consulting firm based in Columbus, Ohio, specializing in helping businesses develop, launch, and optimize podcasts as part of their marketing strategy. The firm emphasizes the importance of storytelling through podcasting to differentiate businesses and engage with their audiences effectively. www.circle270media.com