In this episode, my guest is Chris Saraceno, Vice President and Partner at Kelly Automotive Group, and the author of The Theory of Five — a framework that’s been quietly transforming how top performers live and lead.

We talk about the five key areas that shape a fulfilling life — faith, relationships, parenting, finance, and health — and the five people you spend the most time with that either pull you forward or hold you back.

But this isn’t just theory.

Chris shares real-life stories and practical questions you can ask yourself right now to take stock of where you’re at and who you’re becoming. We break down:

• How to find mentors in every area of your life (and why you don’t need just one)
• The link between your personal health and your professional success
• Why the people closest to you might be keeping you stuck — and how to shift that dynamic
• And how middle managers in dealerships (or any organization) can grow beyond the grind

You’ll also hear why consistency matters more than intensity, why emotional intelligence is your secret weapon, and how asking the right questions leads to breakthrough.

This episode is full of honest insights and actionable takeaways — especially if you’re ready to stop drifting and start building a life that matters.

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Connect with Chris Saraceno

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrissaraceno

Connect with Bart Nollenberger:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bart-nollenberger-4949405a/
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BartNollenbergerCoaching

Ever wonder why some leaders transform entire teams while others just manage to keep the lights on?

In today’s solo episode, I’m pulling back the curtain on a strategy that’s not just another leadership theory – it’s the secret sauce to turning average managers into powerhouse leaders. And it all starts with one question: Are you a Level 4 Leader?

You’ve heard me talk about John Maxwell’s 5 Levels of Leadership, but today, we’re going deeper – way deeper.

We’re diving into:

• How a high-performing sales rep went from top dog to terrible manager in record time – and what every dealership owner needs to learn from it.
• The critical shift from position-based leadership to people development leadership – and why this is the sweet spot for dealership success.
• The 5 essential elements of a high-performance environment, from vision to activating your team to become self-coaching powerhouses.
• Why emotional intelligence is the missing link in almost every underperforming leader – and how to level up quickly.
• Why most managers get stuck at Level 1 – and how to level up to people development leadership (the real moneymaker in the dealership world).

And here’s the kicker – I’m sharing the blueprint for my new Transforming Leadership in the Dealership webinar series, packed with the kind of insights that can shift your entire organization’s trajectory.

If you’re ready to stop managing and start leading, if you’re serious about transforming your team from average to unstoppable, this episode is your blueprint.

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Connect with Bart Nollenberger:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bart-nollenberger-4949405a/
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BartNollenbergerCoaching

What if I told you that there’s a Toyota dealer in the Midwest pulling $4K in front-end gross per unit… without ever charging over MSRP?

Yeah, read that again.

In this episode, I sit down with my good friend and industry powerhouse, Mike Luner—a guy I’ve known and respected for over 30 years. Mike isn’t just running a dealership. He’s building a culture where process, profit, and people all win. We talk about real leadership, real margins, and real strategies that actually work in today’s market—even with all the noise about margin compression.

Here’s what we dive into:

• How Mike turned a small-town Toyota store into a gross-generating machine (think $800K+ in front-end just from Seal Jet and Diamond Fusion)
• His bulletproof trade-in strategy that starts low and wins big—every time
• Why his salespeople are averaging $85K/year and not leaving
• The secret to consistent leadership: Friday sales meetings (for 40 years straight!) and never being too good to sweep the lot
• Why 50+ cars/month from a full-time buyer is about to change his used car game
• Plus: We talk about how to train like champions, present like pros, and lead like servant-hearted operators

If you’ve ever wondered how to actually hold gross in a compressed market, build a process that sticks, or lead a team that wants to stay and grow with you—this is the episode.

Enjoying the show? Subscribe and leave a review on your favorite podcast players!

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Connect with Mike Luner

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-luner-50817093/

Connect with Bart Nollenberger:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bart-nollenberger-4949405a/
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BartNollenbergerCoaching