How good were the Green Bay Packers’ Super Bowl teams — really? In this hour of Jen, Gabe & Chewy, the crew reacts to a new ESPN.com ranking of all 60 Super Bowl championship teams, compiled using DVOA, and the results immediately ignite debate, disbelief, and plenty of pushback — especially in Wisconsin. 021026 JGC Hour 2 The list ranks the 2010 Packers (Super Bowl XLV) a shocking 47th overall, while placing the 1996 Packers inside the top five of all time — a combination that forces the hosts to wrestle with numbers versus memory, analytics versus context, and what greatness actually looks like across eras. 🏈 Why the 2010 Packers ranking feels wrong The discussion opens with disbelief over the 2010 team’s placement near the bottom of the list. Yes, they were a six seed. Yes, they got hot at the right time. But the crew argues that ranking that team behind dozens of others ignores: Elite quarterback play from Aaron Rodgers A dominant postseason run A defense that rose when it mattered most To Chewy, the ranking feels like penalizing a team for how it entered the playoffs instead of how it finished. 🏆 The 1996 Packers — finally respected Things turn more celebratory when the group learns the 1996 Packers rank No. 5 all time. Chewy, a member of that championship team, reacts in real time — initially guessing much lower — before realizing that statistically, that roster checks every box: Top-tier offense Elite defense Dominance throughout the season and postseason The conversation becomes a mini history lesson, comparing that Packers team to the 1991 Washington team, which DVOA ranks as the greatest Super Bowl champion ever. 📊 Is DVOA too rigid across eras? From there, the debate widens. The crew questions whether any metric — even one as detailed as DVOA — can truly compare teams across: Different rulebooks Different offensive environments Different defensive standards Jen and Gabe point out how much the modern NFL favors offense, making it difficult to fairly judge older teams that played under stricter physical rules. Chewy adds that comparing teams year-to-year without accounting for league-wide strength can skew results: Sometimes you win in a down year. Sometimes you dominate in a strong one. 🌊 Seattle at No. 3?! The most polarizing moment of the hour comes when the crew learns Seattle’s recent Super Bowl team ranks No. 3 all time. While the analytics love them, the eye test leaves everyone skeptical: The offense felt pedestrian in the Super Bowl Sam Darnold didn’t dominate on the biggest stage The defense carried the day The hosts eventually land on an important clarification: This isn’t a ranking of Super Bowl performances — it’s a ranking of entire seasons. That distinction matters, even if it still doesn’t sit right. 🧠 Numbers vs memory The hour becomes a philosophical debate: Should dominance over weaker competition count less? Should postseason performance outweigh regular-season efficiency? Do analytics capture “greatness,” or just consistency? The crew agrees DVOA is valuable — but not definitive. When rankings clash this hard with lived experience, fans are right to question them. ⚖️ The bottom line Analytics can inform the conversation — but they don’t get the final word. The Packers’ Super Bowl history is richer than one ranking suggests, and greatness can’t always be captured in spreadsheets. Some teams dominate quietly. Others rise when it matters most. And sometimes, the best debates start when the numbers don’t match what you remember. 🎧 A smart, funny, and surprisingly philosophical discussion about championships, analytics, and how we decide what “great” actually means — only on Jen, Gabe & Chewy. Green Bay Packers, Packers Super Bowl teams, DVOA rankings, Super Bowl champions ranked, 1996 Packers, 2010 Packers, ESPN Super Bowl rankings, NFL analytics debate, Seattle Seahawks Super Bowl, greatest Super Bowl teams, Packers history, Wisconsin sports, ...
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