Thirteen days into a missing persons case that has captivated national media, the story isn't the search anymore—it's the searchers. Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos has turned a crisis investigation into a reputational implosion, and former ABC News correspondent Clayton Sandell walks me through exactly how it happened.

Guest: Clayton Sandell covered high-profile missing persons and mass casualty events for ABC News, including the Aurora theater shooting and numerous FBI-led investigations. He knows what institutional competence looks like during a crisis—and what we're watching in Arizona isn't it.

In this episode:

• The press conference mistake that telegraphed weakness to every reporter in the room
• Why showing up at a basketball game wasn't a harmless decompression—it was a strategic failure that signaled misplaced priorities
• How the sheriff's defensive one-on-one interviews with outlets like People Magazine actively undermined the investigation's credibility
• The moment the FBI stopped coordinating and started competing with local law enforcement over evidence
• Why armchair internet detectives are producing better investigative questions than official press releases

What you'll understand after listening: How to spot when crisis response shifts from serving the mission to protecting the messenger. Why defensive quotes ("I had to decompress") reveal someone who's lost control of their narrative. The difference between information vacuums that build suspense versus those that breed conspiracy theories and erode institutional trust.

This isn't celebrity gossip. It's a case study in how law enforcement creates secondary crises by prioritizing self-protection over transparency.

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When law enforcement calls a press conference, they're supposed to provide clarity and control the narrative. Last week's Pima County Sheriff's press conference about missing 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie—mother of Today Show anchor Savannah Guthrie—did the opposite.

I brought on Emmy-winning former network correspondent Clayton Sandell to break down what went wrong. He spoke with me during a live chat on Substack on February 6, 2026. Clayton spent 25+ years covering major breaking news for ABC and Scripps, and now trains leaders on crisis communication. If anyone knows what a press conference should look like, it's him.

We dissect:

• Why Sheriff Nanos appeared defensive and disorganized from the start
• The critical mistakes: "Your guess is as good as mine" and "mistakes will be made"
• How the FBI agent's composure highlighted the sheriff's struggles
• Ashley Banfield's controversial reporting on a "person of interest"
• Whether the $50,000 reward press conference was even necessary
• Why the family's ransom video echoes Silence of the Lambs
• How NBC is managing tragedy during Olympic coverage

This isn't a true-crime episode; it's crisis communication. However, the discussion does shed light on how an investigation can lose its way. When a press conference becomes part of the crisis instead of the solution, every misstep gets magnified. This case study shows exactly how that happens in real time.

What you'll learn: How to spot when officials are scrambling versus strategically withholding information, the difference between media training for one-on-ones versus press conferences, why "focusing on process" signals a lack of substantive leads, and what reporters are really looking for when they're in that room.

Guest: Clayton Sandell, Emmy Award-winning former ABC News and Scripps correspondent, crisis communication trainer

Watch the press conference here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzPe6wG3GY0

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Breaking down Peter Attia’s public PR response after his name appears more than 1,700 times in recently released Epstein-related documents. The documents include emails and calendar references tying Attia to Jeffrey Epstein over multiple years. While the files do not allege Attia participated in Epstein’s criminal sexual conduct, the relationship and tone of the correspondence raise serious questions about judgment, proximity to power, and credibility.

Attia, a high-profile longevity figure with a paid membership and major online influence, posted a statement on X that he says was originally written to his staff and shared with patients. Molly walks through the statement nearly line by line to show why a response that leans on legal framing and denial language can fail to meet the public’s real concern, which is moral discernment and ethical boundaries.

In this episode

• Who Peter Attia is and why his credibility is core to his brand
• What it means to be referenced 1,700 times in the Epstein files
• The reputational problem of sustained contact after Epstein’s 2008 conviction
• Why using one internal letter for public consumption can backfire
• The danger of treating a values crisis like a facts-only crisis
• How denials and courtroom-style phrasing can read as calculated
• Why intent and explanation rarely repair trust on their own
• The spillover effect occurs when the public starts scrutinizing everything else
• The bottom line lesson for anyone building a reputation online

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