Ethical Hacker Chris Horner joins us with some wild stories you won’t want to miss.

Chapters
0:00 meet pen tester Chris Horner
02:30 From TRS-80 to penetration testing: how Chris found his path
05:00 Pen test vs. vulnerability scan: what small businesses actually get
07:30 The hacker mindset: curiosity, reverse engineering, and breaking rules
11:00 AI and deepfakes: real threat or distraction from the basics
13:30 Why foundations beat flashy threats every time
16:00 The golf club that stopped Chris cold: MFA and conditional access in action
18:30 When attackers skip the customer data and steal what makes you you
21:30 Listen to your internal team: the domain admin password that opened everything
24:00 Security vs. IT: two jobs looking at the same tech through different eyes
26:30 How to spot a deepfake: the Ferrari test and out-of-band verification
29:30 Employees plugging proprietary data into public AI tools
33:00 Give security a seat at the table and speak business
36:30 When, not if: how to have the investment conversation without spreading fear
40:00 Your EDR needs tuning: don't let the live attack be the final exam
43:00 Info stealers and identity access management: the attack vector right now
45:30 Personal privacy basics: the social media quizzes that hand over your passwords

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