Welcome back to Health Unlocked! In today’s episode, Jasen Petersen explores a fascinating and refreshingly practical side of health innovation: how medical devices like IBAL are rewriting the rules of bringing new interventions to market. If you’ve ever wondered why some health-supporting products aren’t classified as drugs or supplements, or how the FDA draws that crucial line, you’ll love this discussion.

Jasen, speaking from both professional and personal experience (post-lithotripsy, no less - ouch!), walks us through the surprising world of medical device regulation. He explains why IBAL, a micronutrient matrix designed to restore foundational cellular health, qualifies as a medical device rather than a drug and why that distinction could make innovative treatments far more accessible, affordable, and fast to reach those who need them most.

Along the way, you’ll hear about strange regulatory quirks (like how toothpaste can be a cosmetic, a drug, or a device!), learn what it truly means for something to have a “PMI mechanism,” and get a behind-the-scenes look at how shifting the regulatory path from drugs to devices could transform healthcare innovation for both patients and investors.

By the end, you’ll have a whole new appreciation for how creative science, regulatory strategy, and a bit of bold thinking can work together to unlock better health for everyone. Let’s dive in!

Timestamps:

00:00 "IBAL: Redefining Medical Regulations"

04:23 "Foundations of Immune Healing"

08:50 Drug vs. Device Development Timelines

11:01 Drug vs Device Development Differences

15:20 Biotech Confidence in Non-PMI Drugs

20:01 IBAL Ingestion Risks and Alternatives

23:30 "Possibilities for Medical Innovation"

27:43 "Medical Device Outperforming Drugs"

28:48 Drug vs. Device Approval Risks

32:46 "Ion Gel Medical Device Approval"

36:07 Tokenized Research for Immune Continuum

39:26 "Grateful Acknowledgment"

“Disclaimer: Informational only. Not medical advice. Consult your doctor for guidance.”

Show Website - https://powerofsalutogenesis.com/

Ionic Alliance Foundation Website - https://iaf.care/

Jasen Petersen's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasenepetersen/

TopHealth Media Website - https://tophealth.care/

Welcome back to Health Unlocked! In this episode, Jasen Petersen dives into the fascinating world of decentralized science, or DeSci, and explores how it could revolutionize medicine as we know it. With trust in traditional health institutions and pharmaceutical companies at an all-time low, this conversation opens up new possibilities for how drugs and therapies can be developed, funded, and governed.

Jasen breaks down what DeSci actually means, drawing parallels to decentralized finance (DeFi) and blockchain technology, and explains how shifting decision-making and funding power from centralized gatekeepers to communities could make drug development faster, more open, and more affordable. He discusses the potential benefits for contributors, the role of DAOs (Decentralized Autonomous Organizations), and how transparency and democratization could reshape outcomes: not just in research, but for real-world patients.

Using the case of Ionic Alliance and the innovative ion-based wound gel, the hosts illustrate how DeSci models could offer tangible paths to market, bypassing conventional hurdles and sharing both governance and potential rewards with the community.

Of course, no new model is without risks, and Jasen doesn’t shy away from discussing the potential pitfalls, including whether DeSci could simply repackage old problems in new wrappers. He wraps up with a look at the future: what medicine could look like if DeSci truly takes off, and why the journey is just beginning.

Whether you’re a healthcare innovator, a curious patient, or just interested in the intersection of blockchain and biotech, this episode is packed with insights you won’t want to miss!

Timestamps:

00:00 Streamlining Science with Smart Contracts

04:01 Decentralized Approach to Faster Science

08:21 DAO Tokens: Governance, Not Ownership

11:12 Decentralized Research Funding Revolution

13:39 Biotech Breakthrough: Fundable Eyeball Ion Theory

16:37 Decentralized Science: Early Challenges

20:23 Decentralized Science Needs Practical Solutions

26:12 "Guidance vs. ROI Projects"

29:12 Decentralized Funding for Medical Device Approval

31:23 NFTs in Regulatory Approvals

34:00 Transparent Medicine and On-Chain Development

39:06 Exploring Eyeball and Similar Projects

41:42 Appreciation for Blockchain Insights

“Disclaimer: Informational only. Not medical advice. Consult your doctor for guidance.”

Show Website - https://powerofsalutogenesis.com/

Ionic Alliance Foundation Website - https://iaf.care/

Jasen Petersen's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasenepetersen/

TopHealth Media Website - https://tophealth.care/

Welcome back to Health Unlocked! In this episode, Jasen Petersen dives deep into a fresh and holistic approach to understanding health, unveiling a concept Jasen has coined as “micro immune dynamics.” The discussion begins with a personal reflection on summer, parenting, and fostering kids’ creativity, before shifting gears to explore why traditional models of immunity and healing often feel incomplete.

Jasen breaks down the need for a new, unified language to describe the dynamic interplay between immune cells, local nutrients, tissue function, and even resident microbes, all at the micro level where real health and repair begin. They reveal how the micro immune dynamics framework reshapes our approach to chronic illness, inflammation, and even everyday wellness, urging us to move from a reactive to a truly salutogenic strategy.

The episode contrasts current conventional and integrative medical models with this new approach, showing how symptom-driven, terrain-focused interventions can often outpace both systemic drugs and standard diagnostics. Jasen offers real-world signs that our internal terrain may be off balance (long before lab tests catch it), and hands out practical examples and actionable strategies.

Plus, discover how innovative solutions like ion biotechnology and the product IBAL fit into this model, targeting core imbalances to support true, lasting healing. Whether you’re a practitioner or simply navigating your own health, this episode is packed with insight, new language, and a mapping tool for your wellness journey.

Timestamps:

00:00 Youth Entrepreneurial Show Challenge

05:43 Cratogenic Term Explains Drug Breakdown

08:03 "Micro Immune Dynamics: Unified Health Framework"

11:16 "Micro Immune Dynamics in Tissue Health"

15:40 Integrative Microbiome and Diet Therapy

18:13 "Micro Immune Restoration First"

23:03 Cancer Treatment Missteps and Challenges

24:00 Addressing Intracellular Fungal Infections

28:19 "Integrative Remedies Before Antibiotics"

32:51 Subclinical Symptoms and Health Clues

34:15 Spotting Health Imbalance Signals

40:37 Micro Immune Exhaustion and Systemic Signs

42:56 "Nutrient Deficiency Mimics Immunocompromise"

47:21 Salutogenic Restoration for Antibiotic Use

53:16 Micro Immune Restoration via Ion Biotechnology

55:02 Discovering Mechanisms of Healing Effects

58:31 "Expanding Micro Immune Dynamics"

“Disclaimer: Informational only. Not medical advice. Consult your doctor for guidance.”

Show Website - https://powerofsalutogenesis.com/

Ionic Alliance Foundation Website - https://iaf.care/

Jasen Petersen's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasenepetersen/

TopHealth Media Website - https://tophealth.care/